TRANSCRIPT: COVID-19 Directors' Chat - July 23, 2020


Directors' Chat
Thursday, July 23, 2020


The chat history has been cleared

Bill from Mt. Vernon: Do these chats count as training for IPLAR?

Ellen Popit/IHLS: Bill, we've started to count them because they are so COVID specific.

Bill from Mt. Vernon: How about the pre-COVID chats?

Julia, IHLS: Which is a good reminder to run your L2 Library Learning Report before July 30.

Ellen Popit/IHLS: No, we hadn't ever couunted those because they truly were just chatting.

Ellen Popit/IHLS: Julia's right and please call us if you need any assistance.

Shari / Hope Welty:  If we have to go back to curbside, will we be able to request books from other libraries this time

Janet Carlinville: Do you know which chapters of Serving Our Public 4.0 will be covered in this year's Per Capita Grant?

Ellen Popit/IHLS: @Shari.  I believe so.  I think our current plan is to keep ILL going, but libraries can also opt out of receiving delivery is they choose.

jo - Greenville Public Library: I'd like to thank everyone at IHLS for their wise and cautious decisions on quarantining.  I appreciate the care and concern you have for our patrons - and us.  Thank you!

Shari / Hope Welty:  glad to hear that, it sure will help with curbside

Dena Porter-IHLS 2: @jo-Greenville Public Library Thank you so much!

Johnnie Halstead Rick Warren Library: Is anyone elses screen flashing off and on?

Ellen Popit/IHLS: Thanks, Jo!  Just be patient with us as things continue to change and evolve!

Amy Byers Chatham APLD: Janet, I think it's all of the chapters from Serving our Public 4.0. I heard that somewhere, but I don't think that's officallly out there yet.  Am I right?

Julia, IHLS: I'm sorry. I might have moved something. Is it okay now? I've stopped.

jo - Greenville Public Library: @Ellen, absolutely!

Anna IHLS: Hello, I was having trouble typing. I am glad you are all joining us today. Janet, yes it is all of the chapters.

Dena Porter-IHLS 2: @Johnnie Halstead-I am having the same issue, my Adboe needs to be updated

Monica Cameron Shelbyville Public Library: Anyone else feel like the track coach erroneously put them in the 2-mile and you've made it through the first 400 m, but you're already running out of steam? ;-)

Anna IHLS: @Johnnie, you may want to leave and then go back in. It helped with my problem.

Johnnie Halstead Rick Warren Library: Well I can't watch this I'll be in the floor. LOL I'll try to hook up again

Teresa Pennington (Paris): @Monica - oh, yes.

Lisa Winters (Allerton Library-Monticello): @ Monica - yes I'm absolutely exhausted!

Don, Philo: Yes, Monica.

Anna IHLS: @Dena, I did download the edition that is available to download from the login screen.

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: Yes Monica

Scott Drone-Silvers (Lake Land): @Monica - ABSOLUTELY

Shari / Hope Welty:  So much to think of these days !!

jo - Greenville Public Library: @Monica - that is so true!

Ellen Popit/IHLS: All of us need to take care of ourselves and give outselves breaks from time to time.

Bill from Mt. Vernon: Yes all the Chapters, so get to work on them now, especially Chapter 2. That one requires a lot of input from your Board.

Anna IHLS: I don't know if it is kosher or not but I signed up for a RAILS online program for Super Self Care. I think we are all probably experiencing COVID fatigue.

Monica Cameron Shelbyville Public Library: I want a new track coach. Until then, I've signed up for the Extreme Self-Care for Extreme Times webinar next Monday. I absolutely wish you all and your communitites the best!

Monica Cameron Shelbyville Public Library: @Anna Yes!

Diana Donahoo_CentraliaRLD: I take advantage of a lot of RAILS offerings.

Monica Cameron Shelbyville Public Library: Me too. @Diana Does anyone know how to let them know how much we appreciate them letting us share in their trainings?

Anna IHLS: I say take advantage of what you can from Rails offerings whenever you can.

Ellen Popit/IHLS: @Monica. Joe Filapek is their CE coordinator and he's a great guy!

Shari / Hope Welty:  I am thinking about letting my staff go for a short walk around the block. just for a little self care .

Monica Cameron Shelbyville Public Library: Thank you Ellen!

Anna IHLS: I let Joe know all of the time.

Anna IHLS: Are you guys getting more or less push back on masks since the big stores are requiring them?

Johnnie Halstead Rick Warren Library 2: I think I'm back if anyone missed me. LOL

Scott Drone-Silvers (Lake Land): Be aware that there are several viral infections apparently making the rounds at the moment. My daughter over in Bloomington, IN got COVID tested yesterday, had a telemedicine appointment, and was advised that everyone should be adding vitamin C and D right now and hydrating as much as possible.

Anna IHLS: @Johnnie glad you are back.

Kami - Germantown: Our patrons have been good about wearing them.  Not very many patrons come in per day though.

Julie Jarman (Staunton): Hi everyone, I feel exhausted as well. going kayaking this weekend to get some fun in! We all need a bit of balance-

Johnnie Halstead Rick Warren Library 2: @ Anna Thank you

Anna IHLS: @Scott thanks for that great reminder.

Ellen Popit/IHLS: Scott, thanks for that advice

Shari / Hope Welty:  about half of our patrons are wearing mask when the come in.

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: So one big question we have (and I know it was addressed on the listserv) are you all quarantining your tubs when they are delivered? We fill if they are setting for 3 days at the libraires all we need to do is worry about the ourside of the items which we are cleaning with alcohol when they get here.

Teresa Pennington (Paris): My board voted to extend curbside for awhile because they were concerned about masks. That was right before big box stores started enforcing.

Monica Cameron Shelbyville Public Library: Our patrons wanting to check out books have not had a problem...ones that are "just returning" books are trying to ignore it.

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: Shari, if our patrons don't have a mask they cannot enter the building

Julie Jarman (Staunton): So far so good with the masks. I have been putting pics on fb with me in masks, plus we have a million signs on the table in the front foyer advertsing pics of people with their masks on. I am glad the big stores are now requiring it too.

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: We offer curbside if they don't feel comfortable wearing a mask

Lisa Winters (Allerton Library-Monticello): @Jackie - yes quartanting tubs when they are delivered.  

Diana Donahoo_CentraliaRLD: @Monica we are only aloowing returns through our outside dropbox.

Ellen Popit/IHLS: @Jackie.  That's a great accomodation.

Scott Drone-Silvers (Lake Land): I really think that we need to review the quarantine procedure again. There seems to be some significant differences in how people are observing the protocols

Deb Paxton Carnegie: Every item that comes to the library through the book drop, or delivered in a tub goes into 4-5 isolation..sometimes longer if there's a weekend in there. Every item that can be is then sanitized before returning to circulation. This has been our practice since very early on.

Anna IHLS: I believe someof you have even talked about contests for masks to post on your social media

Bill from Mt. Vernon: No complaints about masks, so far (knock on wood). My theory as to why is that people are used to rules in libraries and this is just another rule (no eating or drinking, Cellphone use is limited to certain areas, please keep the noise down)

Monica Cameron Shelbyville Public Library: @Diana We might need to do that too. Thanks!

jo - Greenville Public Library: @Jackie, yes, we are quarantining the tubs when they arrive simply because the materials have been handled.  We wait four days after the date IHLS puts on the tub before checking them in and distributing.

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: So Teresa are you open at all to the public

Diana Donahoo_CentraliaRLD: So far a few grumbles about the masks but everyone wears them so they can stay in the building

Lisa Winters (Allerton Library-Monticello): @Deb - that's what I'm doing also.

Teresa Pennington (Paris): No, although we have been preparing for it.

Johnnie Halstead Rick Warren Library 2: Does everyone keep the masks that you are providing under the desk until you see someone doesn't have one and wants to come in, or do you have some out on the table in a baggy?

Ellen Popit/IHLS: @Scott.  Susan's the expert on that.  The best advice I can give you is to check out the infographic that is being sent to all our libraries.

Anna IHLS: I have heard people are wearing their masks to enter but are sneaking once they are inside and take them off or wear them incorrectly.

Bill from Mt. Vernon: At the Circulation Desk which is next to the entrance.

Kami - Germantown: We have patrons return items to outdoor book drop only.  Quarantine those items 3 days (now 4).  We also quarantine tubs, both coming and going,  for 3 days (now 4).

Julie Jarman (Staunton): We require masks inside the library. If they want to do curbside thogugh, that is fine. They can also just drop books off in the outside book drops. I am relieved that for the moment, no one has given me any probs about the mask here in Staunton. It could change though, we ll see.

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: Johnnie we have them under the desk, but we can see everyone who enters

Lisa - Stinson: I have been tired for months, and as soon as I get comfortable something changes. My fiance/significant other works for a large engineering firm and all guidelines were just given to staff from corporate. I'm spending hours daily trying to figure out policy and procedure and he has no idea what that's like. When i read Illinois guidelines for Stage 4 (I use the retail and museum guidlelines to find a happy medium) and it stated that any hands on or interactive displays should remain closed to the public I litterally just threw the papers in the air. Nothing about this is easy.

jo - Greenville Public Library: We are only allowing returns via the dropbox.  I don't want to risk cross-contamination.

Deb Paxton Carnegie: All returns go to book drop

Bill from Mt. Vernon: We don't require masks if you have Astma or COPD, but we don't announce that to the public. Just tell the patron when it comes up. I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with these chapters that you're talking about. What are these chapters? And what is involved?

Scott Drone-Silvers (Lake Land): @Ellen - the discussion on the Director's list this morning illustrates my point. I believe that even the infographic is being interpreted differently.. I will talk further with Susan about this.

Bill from Mt. Vernon: Asthma

Deb Paxton Carnegie: I'm the only one who puts all items in the isolation room, which is kept locked

Ellen Popit/IHLS: @ Lisa.  I think those guidelines transfer to a library as thing like toys, stuffed animals, etc.

Monica Cameron Shelbyville Public Library: @Lisa AGREED! My husband is a school superintendent and is stressed as well.

Ellen Popit/IHLS: @Karla.  Which library are you from?

Bill from Mt. Vernon: We put ours into tubs by the circ desk. After they are checked in, then they go to isolation. East Alton

Julie Jarman (Staunton): Lisa- I feel your pain

Ellen Popit/IHLS: Thanks!, Karla.  Serving Our Public is the standards volume for Illiinois Public Libraries and library boards are asked to review them as part of the annual per capita grant requirement.

Monica Cameron Shelbyville Public Library: Our cases have gone up by 1/3 in the last 10 days...anyone else seeing a large surge?

Anna IHLS: Here is the link for ordering the latest Serving Our Public

jo - Greenville Public Library: Yes.  We have gone from 11 cases at the end of June to 28 now.

Bill from Mt. Vernon: From a couple a week to about a dozen a week

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: Yes Douglas County has had a rise in the pat few days

Deb Paxton Carnegie: @Lisa..the struggle is real! SO exhausted all the time. I'm constantly thinking about the library, how to do things better, what step to take next, etc..Only worked here 5 weeks, then shut down.

Lisa Winters (Allerton Library-Monticello): @Monica-up about 40% in Piatt County this week

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  i saw a graph the other day that Macoupin is also going up slightly too. It has been relatively low though so.. cross our fingers it was a fluke.

Anna IHLS: I know Jackson County has been having some surges and the majority of the case are people in their teens and twenties. We wull be getting more students back for SIU too.

Ellen Popit/IHLS: It appears that the Metro East is the hottest spot we currently have within our service area.

Diana Donahoo_CentraliaRLD: @Anna I had a phone call today to let me know IHLS was out of the Serving Our Public books and I wouldn't be getting the ones I had ordered.

Scott Drone-Silvers (Lake Land): I think that there was some expectation that there would be a post 4th of July surge and people got together to celebrate and may not have been as careful as they should have been...

Ellen Popit/IHLS: How has your foot traffic inside the library been?  How about computer use?

Teresa Pennington (Paris): @Deb I'm grateful that this is happening during the last 2 years of my career. During the first two, I was only facing fundraising/construction of an addition - I thought that was exhausting!

Kami - Germantown: Small town, but average of 10 people per day.

Shari / Hope Welty:  our computer use is real slow, which we are glad

Julie Jarman (Staunton): Yep, the Gov said the other day he is considering closing some counties down for those high numbers if needed. WE are right nextdoor. My family of course all live in Madison Co. as well. We wait and see what will happen.

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: Computer use is way down and we have been checking out about half of our pre-shutdown items

Monica Cameron Shelbyville Public Library: Will future Directors' U now have a pandemic session?

jo - Greenville Public Library: @Ellen, slow but steady inside the library as well as curbside

Shari / Hope Welty:  our morning are busy and afternoon real slow

Angie --- Trenton Public: We opened up most of our computers on July 1st and have been surprised at the low useage.

Lisa Winters (Allerton Library-Monticello): @Ellen - computer usage down (we only have half our machines running), foot traffic down, patrons still requesting curbside pickup.

Monica Cameron Shelbyville Public Library: Slow and steady here too. Most computer users are not even trying to linger.

Anna IHLS: @Diana, thanks for letting us know. I can't even find my own personal copy. I assume we will try to restock  One can order from ILA but you won't get a discount.

Denise Karns Norris City Library: We now have about 33 cases in White County and in surronding counties as well.  We have been slower than usual and our computer use is less than what we usually experience.   Some of our patrons are still requesting pickup service.  

Kathleen Rister - Groff Memorial: Our foot traffic is slower than normal.  Summer reading participation was way down, too.  Computers are slower than usual, too.  Just found out today that an employee at the local daycare tested positive and they are shutting down for two weeks.  The community is going ahead with a hog roast this weekend and I doubt masks will be worn by very many.

Bill from Mt. Vernon: It finally happened, one of the workers at Kroger tested positive.

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: We had worked so hard to put in a teen area and we were really getting lots of kids in after school and now of course we can't have gatherings, it makes me so sad. It's like a ghost town in that corner.

Don, Philo: Thanks Anna for the link to the standards book.

Anna IHLS: @Jackie that is so sad. But I am sure it will be popular once things are finally able to open back up.

Ellen Popit/IHLS: @Jackie----we just soldier on!  I'm so glad we have this online community for support.

Bill from Mt. Vernon: We have decided to keep crubside going through August (we are open to the public and have special senior hours)

Bill from Mt. Vernon: curbside

Julie Jarman (Staunton): It has been slow in Staunton too-  but most are so glad we are open and they can look for books.

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: Thanks for the encouragement

Deb Paxton Carnegie: We are open to the public with guidelines, and we will continue pick up service for a very long time.

Kathleen Rister - Groff Memorial: Has anyone found a disinfectant spray that doesn't leave a film?

Monica Cameron Shelbyville Public Library: My new motto is little by little.

jo - Greenville Public Library: @Julie, yes, most of our patrons are extremely grateful.

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: We started using alcohol in a spray bottle

Bill from Mt. Vernon: We limited the number of patrons to 20, but increased it to 30. Not that it matters, we only maxed out twice in the time we were at 20.

Kathleen Rister - Groff Memorial: Jackie, do you dilute it?

Lisa - Stinson: @Ellen, I know. It was just a moment I wanted to scream a library is a living breathing interactive exhibit all day every day. I explained it to Kevin by asking him what he would do if every person that came in his office touched everything there, all his books, computer, desk, on and on. It's just been overwhelming. As for services, our cases never got low enough to open the library to the public and now they are on the rise again. So we offer curbside, home delivery, two computers by appointment and all returns go to the book drop which we check 3 times a day. We had 23 new cases over the weekend reported Monday and anywhere from 5 to 7 new every day since then. It's a very small rural county so that's a lot.

Anna IHLS: @Monica maybe we should all strt embroidering sampleers and throw pillows with that. It could be made into a t-shirt as well.

Lisa Winters (Allerton Library-Monticello): @Monica - I keep saying I'll take small steps forward instead of a big step forward and have to back down.

Denise Karns Norris City Library: We usually have several tutors and students in the library for tutoring sessions and study sessions throughout the school year.  Any thoughts on this from anyone?  Suggestions?  

Lisa - Stinson: @Kathleen, I have been making alcohol wipes with alcohol water and essential oils and they don't leave a film. Or we just use straight alcohol in a spray bottle.

Bill from Mt. Vernon: Anybody have a good number for determining when to cut back services again?

Ellen Popit/IHLS: @ Lisa I hate that the sourthernmost counties have been hit so hard.  I'm glad that you never had to open.  Are your patrons takiing advantage of ILL?

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: NO we don't

Ellen Popit/IHLS: @Bill.  I think there will be official guidance from IDPH.  

Bill from Mt. Vernon: We have reopened out study room for that purpose. Two or three people working together doesn't seem to be much of a threat, yet. Still have to wear masks though

Lisa - Stinson: @Ellen, yes they are. One of my staff told me yesterday that they were hopping like one legged frogs.... I hadn't heard that one before. I was working the computers, but we are definitely staying busy.

Julie Jarman (Staunton): I am trying to stay focused. deal in only facts,, not what ifs.. It seems to help me relax. I also know the library board can shouldrt the burden of making decisions as well. What is everyone else doing? I remind myself that I am not a dictator. just a director. LOL

Ellen Popit/IHLS: @Good.  I'm sure the patrons really appreciate it!

Bill from Mt. Vernon: I'm not fond og the IDHP. Their guidelines don't really discuss libraries much.

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Denise Karns Norris City Library: Thanks, Bill.  

Scott Drone-Silvers (Lake Land): We are going to close our study rooms and use them to store excess furniture. Still waiting on word of how we are going to close our stacks off while the building has to be open.

Anna IHLS: @Denise, I kind of forgot about tutors. Having  once upon a time used used one for my daughter I understand their importance but if it puts others at risk , I am not sure how that weighs up.

Ellen Popit/IHLS: @Bill, but I think that they will direct a region to move from Phase to Phase.

Lisa - Stinson: @Ellen, they have all been extremely supportive. WE have had a few who aren't happy we haven't opened yet, but most are just appreciative of what we can do.

Shari / Hope Welty:  I was thinking that if we go back to stage 2 we would go back to curbside. or should it be stage 3

Kathleen Rister - Groff Memorial: Denise, are your schools going to be in session, or online?  Maybe you could make a schedule with specific time slots so that you could clean the tutoring area between each use.

Julie Jarman (Staunton): Bill- we are waiting to see what our gov does, what our MCPHD determines, what the schools do too-- I guess it is good we are not alone

Ellen Popit/IHLS: @Shari, there has been lots of discussion of going back to curbside at Phase 3.  Again, ILL is planning to continue unless a library says they don't want delivery.

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: If we move back a phase, we are planning on doing what we did in May, we were open by appt with one person allowed in at a time, and curbside service

Scott Drone-Silvers (Lake Land): Our problem is that the schools who are announcing what they are doing are all doing somehing different.

Bill from Mt. Vernon: The local High School is going to 2 in person cdays a week (and getting out at 1:45 on those days)

Julie Jarman (Staunton): Our board said last week that if our schools decided not to open the doors on time, we would be back to curbside. Staunton is still trying to open with some doing remote learning, etc.. it has been very difficult for all involved.

Denise Karns Norris City Library: Anna, that is my concern - the risk and the closeness even trying to maintain distance.  Kathleen, our school has a plan to open and to offer virtual leanring as an option.  My first thought was to contact the schools and talk with them first - so thank you.

Lisa - Stinson: @Scott, that's the same with us.

Anna IHLS: Obn the plus side I think we are all getting better at dealing with the ambiguities of the ongoing situation.  You prepare as much as you can and then let go of some of the stress and trust in your preparations and have confidence in your decision making skills. You have all done a good job so far.

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: Big question....what about clorox wipes, they are hard to find. Anybody else having that issue?

Deb Paxton Carnegie: Can't find wipes, and running out soon.

Bill from Mt. Vernon: I've given up on having a Fall Newsletter this year, who knows what we will be doing in a month, let alone 3

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: Deb we are too, I have family looking in other states LOL

Dena Porter-IHLS: I have been able to buy wipes. Sam's in Cape Girardeau was stocked and my local Dollar General has had them.

Scott Drone-Silvers (Lake Land): I see that new cases broke 1600 today. Region 4 is definitely the hotspot at present.

Deb Paxton Carnegie: @Dena..start a wipes mailing business :)

Lisa - Stinson: My daughter in law is a teacher an right now they are looking at rotating half the children two days, the other half two days and one day for virtual and catch up for teachers. They got a grant for ChromeBooks for all students, but so many don't have internet service at home.

Julie Jarman (Staunton): I know you can make the wipes, I have bleach, paper towels and containers at home but just have not gone that route yet. We have clorax spray and paper towels. when the wipes run out -- and we look for more.

Kathleen Rister - Groff Memorial: Jackie, yes.  I bought a bucket system but it turned out to be on back order, too.  We were supposed to get rolls of dry wipes and then cleaner in to soak the wipes.  All on backorder.

jo - Greenville Public Library: We ordered from They have kits of cleaning supplies including wipes.

Dena Porter-IHLS: @Deb. I should, it could pad my retirement income :)

Anna IHLS: On ARSL someone shared a commercial disenfectant sprayer for $339, it kind of reminded me of some of the equipment used in Ghostbusters.

Deb Paxton Carnegie: Exactly Dena!

Monica Cameron Shelbyville Public Library: @Scott Is Lake Land having any classes in person this fall?

Scott Drone-Silvers (Lake Land): Our maintenance people are buying baby wides and injecting the packages with alcohol.

Julie Jarman (Staunton): ghhostbusters....LOL too funny Anna!

Dena Porter-IHLS: If your a Pinterest person, like me, there are many DIY recipes for homemade disinfectant wipes.

Ellen Popit/IHLS: I've been able to buy some spay online.  Found wipes at Target last Saturday.  I really think it's a matter of being in the right place at the right time.

Bill from Mt. Vernon: Wipes have been hit or miss. Sometimes they are available, sometimes not

Ellen Popit/IHLS: I read this yesterday:

Scott Drone-Silvers (Lake Land): @Monica - Some will be FTF, mostly for lab classes and for classes like nursing and dental hygiene who cant do virtual sessions. More should be coming out pretty soon, I think.

Julie Jarman (Staunton): Bill- I agree, the calendar is out the window, I am taking it all day by day.

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: that is interesting Scott

Brenda Gilpatrick Red Bud Public Library: @Anna, that's the type of sprayer they were using at the YMCA

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: Thanks Ellen

Lisa - Stinson: @Deb - I go to dollar tree and buy a ton of baby wipes and betty crocker plastic containers in the same size as the wipes (One package of wipes fits perfect) I cut the packages open an let them dry out (or close) then pour 1/4 cup of 70% alcohol and 1 cup water with 5 drops sweet orange or lemon essential oil in each container. We also keep small spay bottles of alcohol with paper towels everywhere. Walmart has two large bottles of alcohol online so I stock up that way.

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: That sound great Lisa

Ellen Popit/IHLS: Thanks for sharing that, Lisa

Scott Drone-Silvers (Lake Land): Nice, Lisa. I might suggest that, or do some experimenting at home

Deb Paxton Carnegie: Thank you Lisa

Julie Jarman (Staunton): Thanks Lisa- great idea

Denise Karns Norris City Library: Good suggestion, Lisa.  Thank you!

Lisa - Stinson: You're welcome. I actually add a little more alcohol than it calls for, but not much.

Bill from Mt. Vernon: I'd like to see a discussion/online training about the new Serving the Public. Having to do all chapters, instead of one or two a year, is going to be a chore.

Lisa - Stinson: @Bill, I completely agree.

Ellen Popit/IHLS: Who would ever imagined we'd be studying alcohol content on cleaning products and now I do it all the time!

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: Is everyone open their pre-shutdown hours? We are only at 32 hours a week instead of 53 because we have to wear mask also and we are doing shifts at the front desk

Deb Paxton Carnegie: @Bill...more to stress about!

Anna IHLS: @Lisa I bet they are very pleasant smelling as well as effective. I have some sking conditions and all of the disinfecting is starting to cause some flare ups anyone found any skin friendly solutions?

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: agreed Bill

Monica Cameron Shelbyville Public Library: We've been using our white trifold towels and alcohol the same way. We just cut them in half, place them in a container, and pour 70% alcohol on them.

Lisa - Stinson: @Ellen, me too. My favoritie hand sanitizer I carried in my purse for years is only 60%.

Bill from Mt. Vernon: We are back to regular hours, except for closing 30 minutes early for cleaning.

Lisa Winters (Allerton Library-Monticello): @Jackie-normally open 63 hours a week but right now only operating at 20 hours.

Ellen Popit/IHLS: I wouldn't stress  until you see those requirements on the ISL website.  They are very aware of the challenges everyone is facing!

Kami - Germantown: We close an hour early each day for end of day cleaning.  We are normally open 34 hours a week.

Shari / Hope Welty:  We are at regular hours.

Monica Cameron Shelbyville Public Library: We are working regular hours and also closing 30 minutes early to disinfect.

Bill from Mt. Vernon: Link to that ISL info?

Julie Jarman (Staunton): We are at normal hours. The board and I hated to cut anyone back any on their paychecks  in this crisis. We are doing ok- just cleaning in betweeen the slow periods. ( it has been slow but steady) Of course, we reserved the right to close up shop early to clean if we thought we needed it. So far OK

Lisa Winters (Allerton Library-Monticello): I should have mentioned that staff is working at 3/4 time.  Virtual programming is taking a lot of our time.

Nichole (Millstadt): If we go back to Phase 3, does anyone see less hours? Paying employees less hours or furloughs? We paid everyone through the last 3 months, but I don't know if we can do that again.

Anna IHLS: Bill maybe you could e-mail Ellen and I more about your thoughts on training so we can share with the state library

Kathleen Rister - Groff Memorial: We're normally open 48 hours.  One full-time, 2 part-time.  One of our part-time is on maternity leave.  We are closing one hour early Monday through Friday for cleaning.  

Scott Drone-Silvers (Lake Land): It is looking like our library is only going to be open 8-5 Monday-Friday this semester. We may change that later, but that is what our President has told us to start out with.

Denise Karns Norris City Library: I would be interested in online training/discussion as well.

Angie --- Trenton Public: We are open regular hours.  If we go back to Phase 2 here, we will go back to our COVID hours.

Lisa - Stinson: @Anna I make my own hand sanitizer too with alcohol, witch hazel, vitamin E and water, then I keep a bottle of Eucerin lotion with me everywhere. I can't remember the type of Eucerin, I'll email it to you. But my hands aren't cracking and bleeding anymore

Don, Philo: Bill,  I let my board know we would be covering 3 chapters a month over the next 4 months to get it all in, on time.  I don't like that we got such short notice on this.

Anna IHLS: @Lisa thank you.

Kathleen Rister - Groff Memorial: I'm interested in online training, too.

Julie Jarman (Staunton): If we go back to curbside only, I believe we will keep the same hours. The board says they have budgeted for regularly scheduled hours this year so it has not been an issue. Thankfully!

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: I know we have so much to cover at board meetings now, I hope they can hang in there with me with the Serving our Public. With everyone wearing mask they don't like to take too long

Julie Jarman (Staunton): Lisa you remind me of my daughter. She is in Grad School/ biology. We call her the Mad scientist. I think it is wonderful you know how to do all of this.

Ellen Popit/IHLS: Bill, here's the link to  the per capita information, however nothing has yet been updated for FY21: You will have a new contact person for this next grant.  Jeanne Urbanek is retiring at the end of this month.

Anna IHLS: So some sort of training or clarification on usi9ng the Sereving our public for the reports seems to be a popular request. Send me your thoughts and I will try to compile them and sharae them with the state.

Johnnie Halstead Rick Warren Library 2: RWL is Open Mon-Fri 10am - 6pm no Saturday or Sunday

Shari / Hope Welty:  If you go back to curbside again will you also go back to  only 1  staff member at a time in the building

Kathleen Rister - Groff Memorial: Oh, I love Jeanne!  I will miss her.

Lisa - Stinson: @Julie, that's funny. Kevin calls me the mad scientist too  with my creepy kitchen lab :)

Ellen Popit/IHLS: @Kathleen, we all will!

Don, Philo: Happy to hear for Jeanne, but sad for us.

Bill from Mt. Vernon: Until June (the end of our fiscal) we had the money to pay everyone (lucky to be a District Library). But with the uncertainty of tax revenues (and when we will get Per Capita, remember the year they skipped a fiscal year) I just don't know about this fiscla

Scott Drone-Silvers (Lake Land): The minimum wage hike is going to cost me about 20% of my part-time hours this year. It's going to make pulling holds more difficult, but if we are only open 8-5, it will be a bit easier to cope with

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: Happy for Jeanne, but I will miss her

Julie Jarman (Staunton): I wish they would just cancel the Per cap essays for this year.. I guess that is not an option? ISL needs to get the word out soon so we can at least begin working on this. Sorry for the rant. I know its nothing to do with  IHLS/ Share.

Monica Cameron Shelbyville Public Library: Jeanne has been a great resource whenever I needed help!

Angie --- Trenton Public: Of all the years to require us to cover EVERY chapter for Per Capita.....Sheesh!

Denise Karns Norris City Library: I will so miss Jeanne. I am so happy for her and wish her well!

Anna IHLS: @Angie I will include that in comments I share with ISL

Bill from Mt. Vernon: Angie Tell me about it

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: Julie Jarman, I feel the same way

Shari / Hope Welty:   Jeanne has been a great help to me every year

Deb Paxton Carnegie: Stress on top of stress.

Bill from Mt. Vernon: Going to miss her help

Julie Jarman (Staunton): Jeanne- Oh I loved her. wonderful that she is retiring though.

Shandi Greve Penrod (IHLS): So, The other week I had asked everyone what their libraries were doing mid-pandemic regarding promoting a Census complete count. Since then, we've asked Joe Natale of the Illinois State Library and a few public library staff members to join us for a Census reboot event, Make Your Community Count! Public Libraries and the Census Today. It will be held Monday, August 10, from 1-2 p.m. on Zoom. We hope you'll register to attend and hear more about the state of the 2020 Census, why it's still important libraries help reach hard-to-count populations, and how some libraries are working to promote a complete count even as they deal with pandemic issues. You can find details and a registration link at

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: sounds like we all better sign up for this self care program on Monday. :)

jo - Greenville Public Library: Jeanne was the first person to help me - I started as director 10 days before the Per Capita was due - I appreciated her so much!

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: Thank you Shandi

Scott Drone-Silvers (Lake Land): I am seeing more drinking-related Tshirts this year than in a long while. Maybe I had just stopped noticing them....

Lisa - Stinson: Jeanne has always been amazing. She will definitely be missed by procrastinators like me.

Ellen Popit/IHLS: Jeanne has beautiful newborn twin grandchildren to keep her on her toes!

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: haha Scott

Julie Jarman (Staunton): I guess I better get off here and start reading over the Standards book again- Not a good year to do this to us!

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: Take Care and thanks for sharing, everyone!

Bill from Mt. Vernon: I only got through the first 2 chapters so far

Anna IHLS: I suggest you have each of your trustees take a chapter and report out to the reat of the board

Shari / Hope Welty:  When is the per cap grant due

Lisa - Stinson: @Scott I think you're right. I'm having Team Stinson Pandemic 2020 shirts made for my staff and I was looking for funny things to go on the back and day drinking was the 31 option every search I did. And Tiger King

Julie Jarman (Staunton): OMgosh, twin grandbabies. double the fun

jo - Greenville Public Library: @Anna, what a wonderful idea!

Lisa - Stinson: * #1 option

Bill from Mt. Vernon: Anna Good idea. I'll do that for the chapters after the first two.

Ellen Popit/IHLS: @Anna.  Perfect!

Lisa - Stinson: Very good idea Anna!!

Julie Jarman (Staunton): I like to read the checklist at the back of each chapter.. It helps it go so much faster.

Bill from Mt. Vernon: Julie I'll try that

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: Love it Anna!

Julie Jarman (Staunton): Love the t shirt idea!

Scott Drone-Silvers (Lake Land): @Lisa Best one yet: 1 tequila, 2 tequila, 3 tequila, Floor...

Julie Jarman (Staunton): Agree with Scott on this one.

Denise Karns Norris City Library: Everyone have a great day!  Thanks for sharing!

Anna IHLS: I want one of eah of the tshirts you guys come up with.

Lisa - Stinson: @Scott, good idea, I just won't let them wear them on board meeting days!

Ellen Popit/IHLS: When we're on the other side of this, a bit celebration is in order!!!!!!

Bill from Mt. Vernon: nO WHEN, IF

Jackie Camargo Township District Library: YES Ellen

Bill from Mt. Vernon: Try again. Not when but if

Julie Jarman (Staunton): We use hand sanitizer from Blue stem Vodka. Everyone will most likely think we are drinking on the job around here. It does smell good

Monica Cameron Shelbyville Public Library: The after party will make New Year's look like a small gathering.

Lisa - Stinson: @Ellen do we get the tequila and hopefully not the floor :)

Shari / Hope Welty:  I think there will be a lot of wild New Years eve parties this year

Anna IHLS: I say celebration of ancient Roman proportions

Maria Dent - Mt. Zion District: Thanks everyone

Bill from Mt. Vernon: Only if I get a shot first

Shari / Hope Welty:  Have a great weekend !!

Anna IHLS: @Shari and babies too

Bill from Mt. Vernon: By

jo - Greenville Public Library: Thank you all.  Take care.

Monica Cameron Shelbyville Public Library: Bye. Thanks!

Julie Jarman (Staunton): Thanks everyone, Love the sharing of information!

Lisa - Stinson: @Bill deal!! Have a great weekend everyone.

TWILLA COON: Thank you and have and have a great weekend

Johnnie Halstead Rick Warren Library 2: Thank you all!

Anna IHLS: Take care everyone. Talk next week.

Ellen Popit/IHLS: Have a great weekend!  See you all next Thursday!

Kay Burrous  South Macon: Stay Safe!!!