TRANSCRIPT: IHLS Directors' Chat - August 26, 2021


Directors' Chat
Thursday, August 26, 2021

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Happy Thursday, everyone!

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  Happy Thursday to you, too!

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  I guess the big news of the day is the mask mandate. announced this morning and the vaccine mandate for educators!

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  Hello, all!

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Here's a link:

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  We had been requiring masks for unvaccinated and staff, but we have everything ready to go for masks. I'm not looking forward to patron pushabck, but it has to happen.

Michelle Barclay Public Library:  Hi everyone!

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Bobbi, I'm really hoping that several weeks of mandated masking can greatly reduce this spread.

Pam - West Frankfort Public:  I found an old brochure " Patron Guide to the new SHARE OPAC" (I know it's old because Carterville is still listed as an office) Has this been updated and if so where can I print one from?  We thought about making packets for new card sign ups next month and wanted to include this brochure.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  We have kept the mask requirement all along.  Yes, we've had some pushback, but we've sweetly offered curbside and it seems to calm them down.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @Ellen - me too!

Michelle Barclay Public Library:  I am with you, Bobbi! I had issues with some of my staff not enforcing the mask mandate when I wasn't here before, so this time I have had to be tougher and let them know it will affect their raise and possibly their employment.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  Hi everyone1 Staunton went back to requiring masks on Aug. 11 the first day of school where our district required them-

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Pam, Cassandra is going to hop into this chat in a few minutes and I'm sure she can answer that for you.

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  We went back to requiring mask a few weeks ago--when our COVID

Pam - West Frankfort Public:  @Ellen - thanks

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  Most of my patrons will go along, but I know we'll have some people who will be jerks about it. I don't mind dealing with them, but I hate that my staff has to if I'm not here.

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  went up

Michelle Barclay Public Library:  We are hosting a vaccine clinic at the library Sept. 15 & 29. We are in a very vaccine resistant county, but I am hoping people will show up.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  it has been a nice transition though with the masks here, everyone was very nice about the masks, If they did not have one, we would give them one. Let me tell you, it has been harder for me to put one back on, felt like I was suffocating the first week. It has been a bit easier now

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @Michelle - that's a great idea!

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Julie, it has certainly been a roller coaster!

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  We had a vaccine clinic earlier this week.

Michelle Barclay Public Library:  @Bobbi, I sure hope people come though!

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  How did it go, Esther?

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  This covid stuff has really hit home here- I know several, including family members sick from this delta stuff. Everyone now seems to be in recovery thankfully but it has still been stressful.

Diana Donahoo_CentraliaRLD:  @Michelle we are hosting vaccintion clinics also.

Michelle Barclay Public Library:  @Donna, that is great! Have you had one yet?

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  Ellen--I'm honestly not sure. They were on the first floor, so I didn't see and I haven't heard how many we had. Knowing our area, it may not have been many. But everyone counts.

Anna IHLS:  Masks harder in the heat but still better than the alternative

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  Our school had to close 6 days in- spread of infection. They hope to go back on Monday- fingers crossed. Only about 42 % in our county vaccinated right now.

Diana Donahoo_CentraliaRLD:  Not yet. I wss just contacted this wek so we are at the beginning of the process. Hoping for 1st clinic to be Sep 21

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Hardin County school is closed for the rest of this week.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Michelle- Great Idea!

Michelle Barclay Public Library:  @Diana, I meant!

Diana Donahoo_CentraliaRLD:  Typing is bad today...:D

Michelle Barclay Public Library:  @Julie....I overheard a conversation about the whole HS Football Team being quarantined in Staunton

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  I am REALLY hoping we can weather this surge quickly and get into a calmer mode.  But, to give us all credit, we've been here before and we know how to handle all kinds of things.

Anna IHLS:  Do you think having the FDA giving official approval will increase the number of vaccinated?

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  I have my doubts. The people I know who said they wouldn't get the vax because of no approval are now saying that the FDA can't be trusted.

Anna IHLS:  Ellen truer words were never spoken.

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  As one of my staff always says "this isn't our first rodeo". LOL!

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Bobbi, I'm thinking the increase in vaccination mandates might start to turn things around.

Gary Worden PLD:  I've read that FDA approval will make it easier for corporations to require vaccinations.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Michelle- I think that is what started the infection rates going up - among unvaccinated students including members of the football team- the number of cases rose to over 100 and the proper dept ( MCPHD and the the school Assoc ) were consulted.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  My board has extended paid leave for COVID-related causes until the end of the year, but they want a permanent policy in place that covers all future pandemics. Does anyone have a permanent quaratine policy?

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Ellen- I keep telling myself that!

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @Ellen - again, I really hope so.

Anna IHLS:  Any successes anyone want to share? Even small ones on any front are good.

Michelle Barclay Public Library:  @Bobbi, please share that policy with me if you do get one!

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  Will do!

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Gary- I hope so.  I saw yesterday Delta Airlines is going to add $200 to their emoloyee's  insurance fee if they are not vaccinated, due to costs of not being vaxxed.. Clever!

Michelle Barclay Public Library:  @Julie....I am guessing masks were not required at the school?

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  We were hoping to get 250 participants for our summer reading program and we got 436!

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  That's our happy news right now

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Bobbi  Wow!!!!!!

Anna IHLS:  @Bobbi, you may have to write that one yourself

Michelle Barclay Public Library:  @Bobbi, that's amazing. I was very happy to get 149. It was way up from the previous year.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @Anna - it looks that way so far.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Michelle- Masks ARE required in school-- so this was a bit surprising. I am not sure if those football players were wearing them in practice though- I think they were suppose to be but ?

Michelle Barclay Public Library:  @Julie, oh wow....

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  We revamped our program. It's basically the same for all ages (just different goals) and we let patrons decide which reading level goal worked for them and their kids.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  Yes, Our SRP were great-- over 50 % of participants compared to 2019 numbers-- It was a great morale boost

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Julie and Michelle---I guess the new piece with this variant is how very contagious it is.

Michelle Barclay Public Library:  @Bobbi...I like that. It simplifies the whole process.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Glad that summer reading numbers are good---makes it worth the effort.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  We are getting ready to do the outdoor local  art fest-- Our mobile Story Book Walk will be there and we will have a book nook tent with free little library books to give away and journals for all while supplies last-- The art show will be great but it feels good to be a small part of the community this way. as part of the outreach here in Staunton

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  That's sounds so cool, Julie!

Michelle Barclay Public Library:  @Ellen, that makes sense. I heard on the radio yesterday that 2 people in their 30s died from it in Springfield yesterday. That it is hitting younger people who probably thought they'd be fine if they got Covid is just so sad.

Deb Mason Paxton Carnegie:  @Julie..where did you get the little books and journals?

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  If you missed our Members Matter meeting last Thursday on "Building Inclusive Communities" here's the link to the recording:  It was VERY informative!

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  We received a Libraries Transforming Communities grant from ALA to fund a local history project. One of the ideas we're tosssing about is hosting a local history expo. We would invote local organizations like the county museum and the genealogical society to have a table where they share what they do, the cools things they have, etc.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  Bobbi, that's great!

Annette Columbia Public:  Thank you for sharing that Ellen.

Michelle Barclay Public Library:  @Bobbi...that does sound exciting!

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  I reached out to the local art school ( the MAC) back in May when I realized we were going to be limited due to covid - so I wanted to bring some library out to the community. The library brought some art projects over for their free little art cabinet and they invited us to participate in the outdoor art fest-- Yes, it really helped keep my mood up!

IHLS Admin:  Bobbi congratulations, What a great idea,

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Bobbi- that sound great! People will really get on board with that project

Gary Worden PLD:  We received a Healing Illinois grant and purchased $500 worth of books promoting racial understanding.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Gary, who was the funder for that grant?

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Gary, Congratulations!

Sharla Riley~ Doyle Public Library:  I and my crew have taken several classes at The Mac (Macoupin Art Collective), talk about a great director!

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  That's awesome, Gary!

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Deb- I have a collection of books just for this occasion- We have used them in book exchange programs, Family Reading Night, etc. They were bought at discounts, or they are gently free donations that looked brand new- the collection just keeps growing.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Sharla- they are great= :) one of the best things about our town

Angie -- Trenton Public:  We have had 5 children complete the 1,000 Books Before Kindergarten in the past month.

Deb Mason Paxton Carnegie:  Thank you

IHLS Admin:  Bobbi it seems like your community has a  real interest in local history an you have a good relationship wit the society. Any tips?

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Angie - what happens when a child completes the 1,000 books?

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Angie, what an accomplishment!

IHLS Admin:  Congratulations Gary. Very admirable.

Gary Worden PLD:  Ellen, it was a Edwardsville foundation  and applied just to libraries in Madison County.  I'm not at my library right now, but I'll try to get the foundation's full name to you.

IHLS Admin:  Cngratulations Angie, it is so important to get them reading at a young age.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  We do have a lot of support for local history here. developing relationships with the museum and the genealogical society have taken time, but it's been worth it. We reach out whenever we have ideas for partnerships and they now reach out to us in turn. We also push local history on all of our social media and through displays in the library. I'm also a member of a local history Facebook group and try to push the library's resources whenever people have questions.

IHLS Admin:  Sharla that sounds like fun IHLS Admin:  Good work Bobbi.

Angie -- Trenton Public:  The child gets to pick from a box of prizes (books, stuffed animals, coloring rolls and toys) and the adult gets a book tote with our library information embossed.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Just as an FYI, Greg McCormick said at our board meeting earlier this week that more than 200 grants (maybe 239?) had been submitted!

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Angie - good idea to reward the adult also!

Ginger - Athens:  We had a great summer reading program here! This is my first director's chat since May because I scheduled BINGO on Thursday afternoons here. It's good to be back with all the directors.

Ginger - Athens:  Question. Have any public libraries done community collaboration with local school libraries? What have you done that has worked well?

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Ginger, it's good to have you back.  You'll have to connect with Shelley Stone----she's our bingo queen at the system!

Ginger - Athens:  Our school librarian wants to partner to keep summer reading momentum going.

IHLS Admin:  For those prizes at that age I would do the reading Angie. the bags for the adults sounds nice too. Were they expensive and any local support?

Ginger - Athens:  @Ellen, Oooo. BINGO is actually still happening for the seniors! They just take turns calling it now!

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  Ellen- LOL - it felt like I wrote all 200 grants between July and August== LOL- It was only three but that is outstanding!  I took a week off after submitting the last grant  applicaiton

Angie -- Trenton Public:  The bags I bought a couple of years ago (from that dreaded company in Tennessee that calls).  We sell them for $5 as a fundraiser.

IHLS Admin:  Ginger that is fantastic that the school library wants to partner,

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  @Ginger, we have gone to the schools to sign up kids for library cards during their reading events. 

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Julie!  Here's to funding for us all!

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  We also were readers and one of us (not me) wore a Clifford suit there at the event.. ha

Ginger - Athens:  @Amy, like an evening event

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  Yep

Gary Worden PLD:  Angie, I think I've been called by that dreaded company.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Amy, I've been there----those suits are beastly hot!

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Ellen - what is the total amount that the grants will fund?

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Jo, I don't remember the exact figure that Greg used by it was over 2 million dollars if that helps.

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  Well,  I hope they fund all 239 grant proposals. It was A LOT of work

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  That dreaded company in TENN. We have all been contacted by them at one time or another

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  I just hang up on them.

IHLS Admin:  At the Daughtery Library one of the board members donates honey from her farm for fundraising, they make  a nice bit of money for the library. Anyone else have anything like that?

Rachel-ShermanPLD 2:  Ginger I used to go into the elementary school library once a month and read stories o all the Kindergarten and 1st grade classes (pre-covid).  So worth it to drum up excitement for the library!  I would promote library upcoming events when I would visit.  I would spend full two days at the elementary school to promote Summer Reading to every K-4 class as well. 

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  I am glad that so many libraries were able to take that opportunity to apply for grants.

Gary Worden PLD:  Julie, they usually start by asking you what you did over the weekend.  That's when you know you're in trouble.

Ginger - Athens:  @Rachel - love that.

Carol, Ashley Public:  @Julie  I have new respect for those who have the talent and skill to write a grant!!!

Michelle Barclay Public Library:  I'd like to check in on quarantining practices. Has the surge in cases made any of you go back to quarantining? If so, how long are you quarantining for? We are still doing a 3 day quarantine here. My thoughts are that people like to read while sick and may be coughing and sneezing on page after page of the book. People also have much longer term contact with a book than an item they just quickly touch, like a door knob. It is hard for me to think of taking a book someone with Covid just coughed or sneezed all over and then handing it directly to another person.  So I am still erring on the side of caution.  Am I the only one doing this?

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Ellen - thanks.

IHLS Admin:  Amy Greg said they expect to distribute all the money they got for the grants

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Gary- I used to talk to them but now I just say- we are not interested- and hang up! Ha Ha

Michelle Barclay Public Library:  Also, I got my award letters for the per capita grants but haven't got my grants yet. Is anyone else still pending?

Rachel-ShermanPLD 2:  Michelle we quarantine for one day at Sherman still

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  I have had good results from saying, "No thank you and please don't call again."

Teresa (Paris):  @Michelle  Got my check on Saturday!

KelseySchaep--NashvillePl:  @Michelle we received our check on Monday Nina, Milford:  We just got our per capita on Monday Deb Mason Paxton Carnegie:  I received the per capita grant check on Monday

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Michelle- the only thing we are doing with quarantine- toys in the children's room- We only put out a few items a day now, and rotate the stock-

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  Still waiting for our Per Capita check

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  We are pending too. 

Michelle Barclay Public Library:  Ok, good to know I am not the only person still pending...

Debbie Greene:  i am looking for recommendations for the make/model of computer and best place to purchase for a small library.   All help appreciated!

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  @ Michelle, I feel like they sometimes send out the checks alphabetically, and other times it's the opposite. So we're at the tail end, maybe.  It's just a guess.

Michelle Barclay Public Library:  @Rachel, thanks! I know last I spoke to Maria at Mt. Zion, she was quarantining for 1 day as well.

Gary Worden PLD:  Michelle, I might consider quarantining overnight, but I am not doing it now.

Michelle Barclay Public Library:  @Gary, thank you for sharing your practices. And thank you to Julie as well.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Michelle- we are still not doing any in door programming- Our space is much limited-- It pains me not to have these story times but having the young ones possibly exposed,, I did not want to take that risk. We are doing monthly grab bags - etc..  This summer< I did do story time at the local Zion Day Care- either outside or in their huge gym. with a mask of course, It is hard though-

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  @Debbie, we have a Dell rep that gives us pricing for computers. I think it depends on what you're using it for. Is it for staff or patrons to use?

Debbie Greene:  Staff at this point.

Rachel-ShermanPLD 2:  Does anyone have a good link to mask required signage?   I'm looking at the IDPH site and can't find the ones we used before.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  We are currently doing in-person programs because we have a large meeting room and can spread out. However, we're deciding on metrics on when to suspend programs. For example, if schools go remote, we're stopping programming.

Michelle Barclay Public Library:  @Julie, once the weather gets too cold, we will be going back to take and makes as well....unless the numbers miraculously go down.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Micheelle- Staunton received their  per cap check this week- it was much higher than normal-- much appreciated too!

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  We are continuing with make and takes.

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  @Bobbi, same with us.  We have a big room, and will be making kids sit on the carpet squares, six feet a part. Our room that can hold over 150 people will be down to about 22 I believe

IHLS Admin:  At our September Members Matter we will have the director of the  IL DCEO  Office of Broadband speak about what his office is doing and how libraries can get involved. I will have the information on the L2 calendar by the end of today.

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  We are doing limited in-person programs. The size (small) is the main factor.

Michelle Barclay Public Library:  @Julie, thanks for sharing. :) Hopefully the $1.47 will continue.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  Our room also holds 150, but we're limiting to 20.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  We'll have to ask Diana Sussman from Carbondale to share her mask sign.  I'll ask her to post an image on the Directors Listserv.  I think it says something like:  "Masks Required.......Yes, we're serious!"

Michelle Barclay Public Library: that's a great sign!

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  I really like to hear how everyone else is coping with the new ups and downs- We are a tough bunch!

IHLS Admin:  I wonder if that sign was  made in house

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  We can ask Diana---it may well have been.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Ellen- Laughing,, love that sign they use in Carbondale.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @ Julie - I listen to the song "Move Along" by the All-American Rejects a lot.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Maybe we should make a Pandemic playlist!

IHLS Admin:  You know I am a patron of the Carbondale library and am not offended by that sign at all. I too think is is an amusing way to get the message across

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  @Ellen.  That is great about the grants.  If they had $4.7 mil to distribute and only got grants written for $2 mil, what happend to the leftover $2.7mil?

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Bobbi- that is perfect!  Music of course,, I have also turned off some of the news- I am a news freak normally-- and listen to fun podcast-- Brene Brown is great for a pick up!

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Carrie, I'm going to have to clarify that.  As Anna said, Greg indicated that they would distribute all the money!

Ginger - Athens:  I've been reading A LOT.

IHLS Admin:  I love Brene Brown

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  I am now thinking about what would go in my pandemic playlist!! great idea

Ellen IHLS Admin:  maybe Shake It Off

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  I love the pandemic playlist idea!  I'd probably make it my workout routine

Michelle Barclay Public Library:  @Ellen, tell them I will gladly help them with the extra grant money. ;)  But seriously, does this mean perhaps they will open some of the grants back up?

Gary Worden PLD:  There was a funny story on NPR today about vaccine refusal.  A army officer said that one of his men was refusing because it was the first time the army had ever let him say "no" to anything.  The officer said that was probably the best excuse he had heard.  The officer was a in favor other vaccine himself of course.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  I love NPR- I will have to look that one up

Gary Worden PLD:  of the vaccine

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  Move Along and Shake it off- perfect -

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Michelle and Carrie---Greg said they'd distribute all the money, so I'm checking on the amount.

Kay Burrous  South Macon:  Stay Safe!!!

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  Take care, everyone!

IHLS Admin:  The Suremes song about get out my life why don't you babe, you just keep me hanging on

Carol, Ashley Public:  Keep cool!

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  How did it get to be 2:00???????  Here's to a great weekend!

Michelle Barclay Public Library:  I am still waiting for those larger construction grants to become available.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  Thanks everyone! talk to you all next time- Stay Safe! I am going to go buy more masks--

IHLS Admin:  Oh yes, time is up. take care and thanks for joining us today.

Michelle Barclay Public Library:  Oh wow...time to go! Thanks for a nice chat, everyone. Always good to be in touch.

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  I just got a box of 2000 masks from Amazon!!

Michelle Barclay Public Library: how?

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Carrie- I am going to Amazon now- Thank you for the tip!

IHLS Admin:  Carrie you will prabably use them