TRANSCRIPT: IHLS Directors' Chat - February 10, 2022

TRANSCRIPT

Directors' Chat
Thursday, February 10, 2022

 

 

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  Please register for this Thursday mornings Members Matter (https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flibrarylearning.org%2Fevent%2F2022-02-17%2Fihls-members-matter&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc6d58082b3fe4e331f1008d9ecd13049%7Cad3877b36b3b4c2c878f78e3a8da1075%7C0%7C1%7C637801205498976270%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=qyljSDxDe0m8EyFCtdLgyqFmfHPbUTYkj%2Bvd%2Bxo5FHs%3D&reserved=0) This month's special topic:

Grant Writing: Hints, Hacks, and Hopes

Please join Suzanne Johnson, Director of Sesser, Amanda Saia, LSTA Coordinator, Illinois State Library, and Diana Brawley Sussman, Director of Carbondale Public Library, as they discuss their experiences with locating opportunities, tips for grant writing, and sharing resources. Time will be included for questions and the sharing of knowledge.

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  The weather is lovely in Carbondale. Hard to rememer what last Thursday was like.

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  That link didn't take me to the right spot

Anna Anna Yackle - IHLS:  Sorry Carrie. Can you share to the Directos list the one that did get you in?

Sandy West - RLCA:  Any one have a 3D printer in their library and do you have a service provider for the printer?

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  Hi Everyone

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Anna

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  Well it is nice to see all of you.  Here  I know all of you have submitted your per capita that is due on Feb. 15.  And everyone has done their ILL Traffic survey and certified.

Angie -- Trenton Public:  @Anna -- Thanks for the additional reminder about today's chat.  Time got away and I didnt' realize how late it was!

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  I just logged into L2 and went to that date and registered.  But I can't make a link to it work...  Beyond my skill set today...

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Anna- Is that today? I lost track of the schedule

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  Hello everyone! I iwll throw out my question of the day too.... Has anyone found a way to get more attendance at the Illinois Libraries Present author events? I was the only one from my library that showed up for the last one and the attendance didn't look so great for most of the other libraries either. I think these are great events and want to get my community excited about them. Have any of you found a way to do that?

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  You are welcome Angie. Sometimes it gets away from me too, and I am supposed to open the room and get it started. YIKES.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Michelle, We tried to gauge interest here in Staunton but no bites. I missed the actual event due to a schedule conflict but was hoping to catch it on youtube later- I think it is a great idea and very affordable for all sizes of budgets

Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:  Hi everybody! Did you all see that we are having a birthday party for SHARE on April 4? There will be lots of fun and prizes. Even a magician. You can't have a 10th birthday party without a magician! https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flibrarylearning.org%2Fevent%2F2022-04-04%2Fshare-birthday-party&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc6d58082b3fe4e331f1008d9ecd13049%7Cad3877b36b3b4c2c878f78e3a8da1075%7C0%7C1%7C637801205498976270%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=FoqLYy25r2ghAxTURY7m4RAgMMGDyUO3TWRE292YNqw%3D&reserved=0

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  Sandy, are you having trouble with your 3D printer? Is it getting heavy use?

Loretta Broomfield Marion Carnegie:  Michelle, that's why we chose not to participate in IL Libraries Present.  We did a trial author event on our own and no one attended.  Decided not to spend the money to join.

Kami Komm - Germantown:  @ Michelle - I think people are initially excited about things we offer, but when the time comes to actually participate very few show up.   Not sure how to make people follow through.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Cassie- YAY! I love the idea of a party

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  @Michelle, I don't think that we've had a good go with IL libraries presents just yet.  I'm hopeful that we can invite them to a watch party, starting in March, with popcorn and drinks

Ryan Reitmeier - Taylorville Public Library:  That's the big challenge :^( I always try to have snacks or some prize to giveaway, it helps to motivate people (especially parents with kids) to come!

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Sorry- that should have typed Cassandra>>

Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:  No problem Julie! I go by both : )

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Amy and Ryan....those sound like good suggestions! I thought with Covid going on people would for sure attend but that just hasn't happened.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @ Cassandra, Oh good, I did not mangle your name then. :)

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  I have question about how to log and count phone calls from patrons.  How do you count those interactions?  Right now we do not and I just wanted to see what others were doing.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  Hey everyone, I did finally get on the site for OMA and FOIA to do the training. I know we talked about it here a few weeks ago- very simple once I had the time to re register.

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  @Amy, that is a good idea. I hope you get better attendance. I think it is easy to forget and evening program. I don't even have a gaggle of kids at home but I will sign up fo online events and then remember after it is over. Maybe last minute reminders might help.

Teresa (Paris):  @Michelle - I had 4 sign up and 3 show up. I was one of them. So far 2 signed up for next week. I think part of the issue here is that no one has heard of either author.

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  @Carrie, are you asking if you count phone calls as references?

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Teresa, I think you are right!

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  @Carrie--we have a daysheet that we keep a tally of phone calls. We do divide them out by whether they're reference or asking for help with Cloud Library, etc.

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  @ Amy, phone calls to renew books, request books, check our hours, ask about library cards

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  @Carrie, you should definitely count them. The most common method in libraries I worked in was just a tally mark with everytime we went over five minutes we would count it as another question.  One of my libraries had a computer progran where you could record topic and answer as well as how long the call took.

Pam - West Frankfort Public:  I will be having the Board fill out the Statements of Economic interest at the next meeting. Since the questions have changed - do we actually have to list all assets over $10,000 ? I called the county clerks office but the lady I needed to speak with is out sick and someone told me just to mark all the questions n/a or none. How has everyone been answering the questions?

Kathleen Bennett - Catlin Public Library Dist.:  Do any libraries have official policy in regards to comments by the public during a regular board meeting?  One library I contacted has instructions on their agenda.  I want to get my ducks in a row before adding a public comment item on the agenda.  Our agenda has not included that before.

Rachel-Sherman PLD:  IL Libraries Present does send out an email reminder the day of. :)  Perhaps the first author wasn't on people's radar.  I think the next two will be more popular.

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Pam...the EIS form has gone way too far in overeach if you ask me...

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  @Juli glad to hear about your success.

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  @Amy is there a place for this on the Annual Report?  Do you count them as "visitors"? 

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @Kathleen - Yes, we have the policy in our policy manual and at the top of each agenda.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Kathleen---our board (and several others) do have a policy. I bet you could put that out on the Director's listserv and get plenty of samples.

Ginger - Athens:  @Carrie, I'm glad you're asking. I have the same question.

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  While we are ont he subject of numbers, if you have a program at the park and not at the library do you still count the attendees as library visitors? Or do you just count them as program attendees...or both?

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @Kathleen - here is our latest agenda. You can see our policy at the top: https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vwarner.org%2F_files%2Fugd%2F126db1_c9fb8f277c384f81ae99df42d0fb9770.pdf&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc6d58082b3fe4e331f1008d9ecd13049%7Cad3877b36b3b4c2c878f78e3a8da1075%7C0%7C1%7C637801205498976270%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=Xjlb2%2FTJtRCNGlDa2rG%2B7RLy3YOMrnW%2B6%2BGUJBEyifc%3D&reserved=0

Rachel-Sherman PLD:  Carrie Is that a new requirment for the IPLAR this year?  I don't seem to recall counting them in the past.

Ginger - Athens:  @Michelle, we do program attendees.

Ginger - Athens:  Same for when I do story hour at the daycare

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  Michelle - we count them as program attendees. We do the same if we give a presentation to a community group or story times at the schools, etc.

Kathleen Bennett - Catlin Public Library Dist.:  Thank you

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  In libraries I have worked in we kept count of all phone calls and email transactions and treated them the same way as if they were made in person. then we added them all together for our total nimber of reference questions.

Sandy West - RLCA:  @Anna it is getting zero use, because we can not get it to work. 

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @ Ginger, that is what I have been doing but I feel a bit short changed statistic wise when it comes to reporting. At bigger libraries where they have big auditoriums, they get all those people int he door and can count them in with their door count. But at my little library, any bigger programs have to be done elsewhere and so I lose that door count.

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  @Rachel I won't do my IPLAR until later in the year, and I have only done it once so far.  But in working for other public entities we always counted phone calls/emails and "contacts".  I couldn't remember if the ILPAR had a seprate spot for In Person Contacts vs not in person contacts. Just wondering how others tally and use that data.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  We also count phone and email questions as we do in-person questions.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  Carrie - IPLAR doesn't make that distiction.

Ginger - Athens:  @Michelle, I get it. Especially this year trying to make safe choices with outdoor programming.

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  At some point there must have been a need to track in-person vs phone reference questions, because we add it a few years ago.  We have added technology questions for our own record, but count them as reference if needed. I think we had to track it for the digital divide a few years ago.

Carol Brockmeyer:  Yes thank you for the reminder Anne. I did register but had to go through L2 on system website. Link did not work for me either. I have a doctor appt. that morning and won't get in on time. Will it be recorded?

Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:  I know that not all of the Illinois Libraries Present sessions will be recorded, but it looks like they suggest sending the recording out. I know I registered for one, and life just keeps life-ing, so I wasn't able to attend live, but I did go back and view the recording. I'm sure other patrons are probably in that same situation.

Kathleen Bennett - Catlin Public Library Dist.:  @Bobbi Where is that on IPLAR? I have not kept track of either stat because I did not know there was a place for it on IPLAR.

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  I love all of the discussion of what to count. This has been going on as long as I have worked in public libraries. What counts for what is always up for interpretation. However, what I learned from a few of those libraries that win stars and recognition in the library journals is that you count everything in the way that is most advantageous to your library.

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Ginger...is it sad that I am considering keeping any give aways in the library so people have to actually walk through the door? The park we program at is right across the street...

Rachel-Sherman PLD:  If someone asks a reference question over the phone we'll count that as reference.  But questions like are you open?  What are your hours? Can I schedule this? We wouldn't count as reference. 

Ginger - Athens:  If I offered mobile check outs at the park, I might count that differently, Michelle. Is that an option?

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Ginger...that could be an option...

Ginger - Athens:  Or leave the program with the charge, "Don't forget to stop and see us in the library and check out more dinosaur (or whatever topic) books before you head home!

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Ginger, that does work for some of them! :)

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  Ok. Sorry, I had to double-check.  We are like Sherman.  We don't count phone calls that just ask for renewals, for example. But, if it was an actual reference question, we do.

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  Rachel, I understand your decision and the way you count but I have found that some libraries count any question in their numbers. Since we all self report  it is not fair analysis of what you count and what you don't count if your neighbor isn't doing it the same way.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @Kathleen - we just put phone and email reference with all the other reference

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  What is everyone doing regarding Governor Pritzker's announcement yesterday?

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  Our board decided last night that we will stop requiring masks on Feb 28th, except at programs. We will still encourage patrons to wear masks. We will also purchase KN95 masks for staff who feel more comfortable wearing them.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Bobbi - so are you requiring staff to wear masks?

Carol Brockmeyer:  Will Members matter meeting be recorded? I have an appt. on Thursday morning and will be late.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  No, we won't, but I know some of my staff prefer to wear masks.

Teresa (Paris):  Assuming that the mandate is dropped, we will move to recommended at that time. The staff has agreed that for the forseeable future, we will continute to wear masks in public areas. Will also continue to have masks for those who want, but that number will drop, I'm sure, to practically zero.

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  We are likely to do the same as Bobbi. We will require some staff to wear masks, because they are too close at the staff desk.

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  I have been in several libraries where I had to do several outreach events. We would have book discussion groups at a local bar, we would attend the farmers market twice a month, etc. we would keep track of attendance for our own purposed but I believe when it came time to report we included it as library visits using the logic that the staff and the mantle of the library were at these events so it could be counted as a library visit.  It was not questioned.  I think this is a topic that needs to be further explored on a state wide level so everyone is comparing apple to apples and oranges to oranges.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  We are also leaving up all of our acrylic desk barriers. The circ staff asked me if those can be permament.

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  16298-5081

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  sorry-ignore that. wrong box. lol

Ryan Reitmeier - Taylorville Public Library:  We are leaving our barriers up as well. Just makes front desk feel a bit more safe

Teresa (Paris):  @Bobbi. Same here to leaving up the barriers

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  It does and it keep patrons from messing with things on the desk.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  Regarding the mask mandate being lifted. we will go to optional for everyone. The staff is now wearing KN95 masks and have been for a few weeks now. Our areas, the covid numbers are going down- We shall see what happens next>

Ryan Reitmeier - Taylorville Public Library:  I was on the fence surrounding masks for staff, but think we likely won't force it. All of our staff are vaxxed, and they'll wear them if they want.

Rachel-Sherman PLD:  I count any kind of outreach and off site event as a program (YA, adult, or juvenille) not as a library visit.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  We will also have signage letting patrons know that staff will wear a mask while waiting on them if requested.

Ryan Reitmeier - Taylorville Public Library:  That's a great idea, Bobbi. I'm going to add that to my list!

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Anna, lloking into that further would be great! It seems that small libraries that can't fit a bunch of people in the door should still be able to count attendees as library visitors just as those who can fit a big group in the door are allowed to do. It hurts us when we apply for grants, etc. How can we compete with the big guys if we can't even count all our summer reading program attendees as library visitors? We hold summer reading in the park.

Amanda - Auburn:  I'm still going to require it for staff if we're open, and the plexi barriers are staying up, but we obviously can't require masks for patrons still, right?

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  Our staff is vaxxed, we still have plexi glass barriers up on the circ desk and will continue to do so since the vax % is about 50% last I saw for Macoupin. We just don't know who has had the shot or not.

Amanda - Auburn:  2/3rds of my staff is vaxxed, but the other one can't because she's allergic to a component of it, so we're trying to stay as safe as possible without riling anyone up

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  Everyone, as far as Illinois Libraries Present, I hope when the next set of authors are selected you all may have more influence on the cshoices. I wonder if their is anyway that all of the libraries that are part of ILP can pool resources and connections to get the word out  maybe something on Publlic TV or RAdis?

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  Bobbi- that is a nice idea! putting the sign up- Many people will appreciate that.

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  We are going mask optional too, and I can't wait! Everyone has had a chance to get vaccinated and the numbers are steadily going down. I am hoping more people will come back to the library. Though with the 2020 stats that just came out we have literally lost a quarter of our patrons. So we will never be back to where we once were. Sad, sad, sad.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  All but one of my staff is vaxxed - and she is pregnant.  I would hate for anything to happen to her/the baby.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  Yes, our population we down 11%. I wasn't surprised, but it still hurt.

Tina H - SMRLD:  Re Masks: I sent this to the board and staff just yesterday.  "Masks are still required in the library at this time.  The Governor's mask mandate is set to expire Monday, February 28 for most indoor places.  When that happens, masks will become optional, but strongly recommended, for everyone in the library including staff.  Staff will still have to report possible covid exposures and continue to follow the process we have in place for returning to work.  The library will have to continue to track this information as we are required to report to OSHA any time staff contracts COIVD as a result of exposure while at work.  The library has a duty to keep the workplace as safe as possible.  We will require anyone working/dealing with taxes to wear masks in the History Room and when interacting with tax preparers (this includes customers). A sign will be put on the History Room door stating masks are required while in the room."   The plexiglass barriers are permanent installations at  SMRLD.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Anna- I actually like the first two authors ILP has chosen so far- We had those authors in our library already and it was a fun way to promote it- I guess any awareness of a program is still good even though attendance for us was nil.

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  @Michelle, as I said a lot of the bigger libraries do count those events in the park as library visits.  I am not sure what the state library would say but I do know what happens in the real world.

Alex Fisher (Pinckneyville):  @ Amanda I have the same question pertaining to patrons.

Teresa (Paris):  Is Illinois Libraries Present limited strictly to authors? I saw a zoom program from NJ with the senior editor of NYT's Wordplay about word puzzles and thought Wow, our patrons would like that.

Amy Byers - Chatham APLD:  Nicely said Tina!

Amanda - Auburn:  Omega just absolutely burned through Auburn. For a couple of weeks it seemed like all of our patrons had it. It's calmed down but the sudden "We're good now! No masks needed!" was a bit jarring when we were doing so many at-home drop offs as of friday

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  Are other people interested in how to count things? I can discuss this with the state library and share my experiences with counting things and see what they suggest.

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Babbi, what made your population fall?

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  Bobbi! sorry...I type too fast!

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  One of my board members is an ER nurse. He told us last night that he fully expects everyone to get this varient at some point.

Amanda - Auburn:  @Anna I would also like more info on how we're supposed to count things. Everyone seems to have a different metric

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @Michelle - just people moving out. There aren't a huge number of job opportunities here.

Ryan Reitmeier - Taylorville Public Library:  Taylorville lost about 10% of its pop as well

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  I am curious. What is the percentage of your population that have cards at your library?

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  Most of the libraries around mine lost popualtion.

Ryan Reitmeier - Taylorville Public Library:  Think that's generally how rural America is trending though, not necessarily indicative of our specific areas

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  I think everyone needs to look around their area, assess their own situation and make those decisions with this masking/covid thing the best way they know- My plan is to see what everyone is comfortable with based on the info here in our little world.

Holly:  @Michelle I always have the prize at the library regardless of where the program takes place.  It has always worked fine even if we program at the park across town.

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Holly....yep, that is what I am going to do! ;) I'll get those numbers one way or another...

Janet McAllister - Rochester:  Our Population went down 4% - Springfield annexation

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  I have to run to a meeting. Nice talking to all of you! And thank you for all the great ideas and input. These chats really help!

Rachel-Sherman PLD:  @Anna Interesting question.  We just purged a lot of old patron records!  We promote families to use one card so it's easier for them to track items.  Determining what percentage of the population would be a little tricky.

Ryan Reitmeier - Taylorville Public Library:  @Anna - hard to say for us, as we have created a lot of cards through Cards 4 Kids, but before that we were sitting around 30% of the population with cards, and 20% with active cards

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  @Anna, I'm not sure I could easily get that number.  We do household cards and so I couldn't match it up to find a actual % very easily. 

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  @Amanda, I will discuss it with the state but as long as I have worked in Illinois Public Libraries different libraries handle it differently. I have been involved in groups that have tried to get some consistency in what everyone counts and how they count them.

Amanda - Auburn:  @Carrie how do you provide individual patron privacy with household cards? just wondering

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  Our populations dropped 4.5%. I expected it to be more.

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  @Janet that is a good size hit, I am very sorry.

Rachel-Sherman PLD:  We had a 8.15% increase!  And I noticed some spots on the service map that are in our district but not represented on the map. 

Janet McAllister - Rochester:  We have two large apartment buildings going up, but it is in a TIF area so no financial help to us

Tina H - SMRLD:  we lost just over 10% population in our service area  - but I was expecting it.  Actually I was glad it wasn't more.  Anyone know what the total state population change was?

Ryan Reitmeier - Taylorville Public Library:  I read that there were only 2 states to lose population from the census - Illinois and West Virginia

Holly:  I was clicking around the new map and noticed decreases locally.  Ours had an increase it may have only been 6 people, but we had an increase for once :)

Tina H - SMRLD:  @Janet - double check with your attorney - there is a clause in TIF law that has to do with impact regarding new residential places in TIF districts

Amanda - Auburn:  Our % looks like it increased, but it's really hard to say because our district doesn't match with the city limits.

Ryan Reitmeier - Taylorville Public Library:  Where is everyone looking to see these population changes? :)

Ginger - Athens:  @Holly, we went down 6! Funny.

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  I was having a conversation with the state library recently and they mentioned the perecentage of cardholders for two of our members and I was surprised by the numbers. It is interesting that some of you do household cards. That also makes it hard to compare  of cardholders from one library to another. AGain their are no guidelines written in stone so it meakes get an overall look at all libraries in the state and how they might compare.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Ryan, when I submitted the Per Capita Grant, they contacted me to let me know the change in our population.

Holly:  https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsiuegeography.maps.arcgis.com%2Fapps%2Fwebappviewer%2Findex.html%3Fid%3D0896ea81f7274518bc5299b291770e7d&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc6d58082b3fe4e331f1008d9ecd13049%7Cad3877b36b3b4c2c878f78e3a8da1075%7C0%7C1%7C637801205498976270%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=V1dESZ7xy1LiNdJiE9%2BTpwb6dvxRkOwu3yMPLVaKa94%3D&reserved=0

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  Tanks for sharing that Holly.

Ryan Reitmeier - Taylorville Public Library:  Thank you!!! @Jo @Holly

Holly:  @Ginger funny!

Ryan Reitmeier - Taylorville Public Library:  Oh wow! Only 6.58%. That's not as bad as I expected  or thought :)

Janet McAllister - Rochester:  @Tina - I believe we will be able to get $120 per person

Darcy Wallace Watseka Public Library:  Hey it's your resident newbie and I'm  I'm running late Today.  What is the Illlinois Traffic Survey?

Amanda - Auburn:  Oh, thanks @Holly! Ours did drop but by less than half a percentage point. That's comforting, at least

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  I have another question. On the Directors listserv there was some talk about patron records. Do you keep a record of what a patron has checkout and make it available to the patron should they request to see it?

Ginger - Athens:  @Darcy, https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D_7ZHkVwiY04%26t%3D3s&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc6d58082b3fe4e331f1008d9ecd13049%7Cad3877b36b3b4c2c878f78e3a8da1075%7C0%7C1%7C637801205498976270%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=UUtuMJIOrpOfwCAsQGF7HwznKffkp2mWcH%2BBF1rIoK0%3D&reserved=0

Ginger - Athens:  That's the video to explain

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  @Darcy, I will send you more information after this chat.

Amanda - Auburn:  We only do if the patron requests it. It falls under our patron privacy policy

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @ Anna - this is a feature in Polaris. We will turn it on at the patron's request.

Rachel-Sherman PLD:  @Anna  We turn on reader's services if they request it.  It's an opt in option.

Ryan Reitmeier - Taylorville Public Library:  Does Polaris keep those records automatically? (I dont know enough about Polaris...)

Amanda - Auburn:  I have to tap out. But this was super helpful, thanks everyone!

Ryan Reitmeier - Taylorville Public Library:  Ah, thanks for the answers!

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  Any patron who wants their reading history turned on has to sign a form giving us permission to do so.

Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:  @Ryan, no. Your library has to request specifically that it is on, and then the patron has to request it as well. I know some libraries won't even turn it on for patrons; they require that they do it themselves due to privacy considerations. I'll check your settings and email you.

Ryan Reitmeier - Taylorville Public Library:  Thank you, Cassandra!!!

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  @Anna Most of our patron's turned on their reading history in Polaris over covid to help us pick books that they hadn't read and have them ready for them for pickup when we were closed.  Every patron has the option to have it on or off when they sign up for a library card..  Every new card starts with it off for our library.

Darcy Wallace Watseka Public Library:  Thank you Anna and Ginger

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  I am not sure about Polaris' capabilities. I have worked  in previous libraries in various LLSAPs where it was just determined by the group that no patron records would be available for fear of breaching patron privacy. The library would get rid of an record except for what was lost or overdue.

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  Reading history in Polaris is an opt in setting. Patrons can turn it on in the OPAC or request staff to do it. We generally walk the patrons through the process on the OPAC.

Mary Ray/Sidell District Library:  Ours dropped 16.58%!!!  Went from 1924 people in 2010 to 1605!

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  Esther, I can see where that would be popular with the patrons. It is nice that you allow them to make that decision for themselves instead of making it for them.  I assume everyone tells them the dark side in that their records could be subpoenaed or compromised.

Rachel-Sherman PLD:  Can you turn it on using the new SHARE mobile app?

Marsha Slack, Melvin:  Have the new census numbers been released?

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Cassandra

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @Marsha - yes, ISL released them Tuesday.

Ryan Reitmeier - Taylorville Public Library:  @Marsha - https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsiuegeography.maps.arcgis.com%2Fapps%2Fwebappviewer%2Findex.html%3Fid%3D0896ea81f7274518bc5299b291770e7d&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc6d58082b3fe4e331f1008d9ecd13049%7Cad3877b36b3b4c2c878f78e3a8da1075%7C0%7C1%7C637801205498976270%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=V1dESZ7xy1LiNdJiE9%2BTpwb6dvxRkOwu3yMPLVaKa94%3D&reserved=0

Ryan Reitmeier - Taylorville Public Library:  Holly provided the link :)

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  @Anna--that's why we have them do it in the OPAC. Polaris pops up a legal disclaimer about keeping a reading history.

Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:  @Rachel, I don't think so. Let me investigate to make sure.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  OMGosh, my fingers are working faster than my thoughts- @Cassandra- Yes, we do not turn hisory on here unless the patron specifically makes that request. confidentiality of course.

Rachel-Sherman PLD:  I was playing around with it and couldn't find it.

Cassandra Thompson, IHLS:  @Anna that is a very good point. Some libraries have chosen to totally opt out and do not allow it for their patrons.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Rachel - click on your community on the map and it pops up

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  I love giving patrons options but they should also be aware of any risks. I was just curious because of the recent discussion.

Rachel-Sherman PLD:  I meant the mobile app for reading history*

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  Ooops!  Sorry

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  I have elderly patrons we order books for and have for years and it is most helpful in looking throught the thousands of books they have read when making selections on what to order for them next.  Fingers crossed that the new share app makes the next generation in line a bit more self sufficient....  But with the elderly and their need for large print materials, I'm not sure.  But am hopeful!!!

Rachel-Sherman PLD:  Carrie sometimes old fashioned printed lists work the best!  :)

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  Thanks everyone I so appreciate everyone coming and contributing.  Following the chat can get crazy but we still gather great info. Thanks and have a great rest of your afternoon. Next week we won't meet because we have the awesome Members Matter presentation next t Thursday morning.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  Thank you!

Sharla Riley~ Doyle Public Library:  We print out a lot of readers' lists also. They really utilize them and appreciate them.

Darcy Wallace Watseka Public Library:  Thank you

Carol, Ashley Public 2:  Have a nice day!

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  Thanks so much! I enjoy the chats.

Sharla Riley~ Doyle Public Library:  Thank you, have a nice Valentine's Day <3

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  @Carrie--Polaris has a home-bound module that will tell you at check out if the patron has had a title. You may want to look into it. Talk to Dena Porter @IHLS

Ryan Reitmeier - Taylorville Public Library:  Thank you! Have a great day everyone

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  Ohhhhh Esther!!!!  thanks!!

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  You're welcome

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  thanks Esther, I did not know about the homebound module myself.

Anna Yackle - IHLS:  Good Bye all.