TRANSCRIPT: IHLS Directors' Chat - October 14, 2021


Directors' Chat
Thursday, October 14, 2021


Anna Yackle IHLS:   “There is no end to education. It is not that you read a book, pass an examination, and finish with education. The whole of life, from the moment you are born to the moment you die, is a process of learning.” – Jiddu Krishnamurti

Anna Yackle IHLS:  “We now accept the fact that learning is a lifelong process of keeping abreast of change. And the most pressing task is to teach people how to learn.” – Peter Drucker

Anna Yackle IHLS:   “I am always ready to learn although I do not always like being taught.” – Winston Churchill

Anna Yackle IHLS:  “Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever.” – Mahatma Gandhi

Anna Yackle IHLS:  “Wisdom is not a product of schooling but of the lifelong attempt to acquire it.” – Albert Einstein

Anna Yackle IHLS:   “One learns from books and example only that certain things can be done. Actual learning requires that you do those things.” – Frank Herbert

Anna Yackle IHLS:   “Tell me and I forget, teach me and I may remember, involve me and I learn.” – Benjamin Franklin

Anna Yackle IHLS:  I am sharing all of these sage quotes as we have entered the conference season. I am currently attending the Illinois Library Association Conference. In a a couple of weeks I will be attending the Association of Rural and Small Libraries.  Then on November 18 we will have IHLS Member Day.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  If you can't attend the other conferences be sure to  attend our virtual Membere Day event.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  I hope it is a beautiful day where you are and that things are going well. We will be starting shortly but feel free to talk amongst yourselves.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  It's very wet here.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  For those of you who do staff development days, how often do you do them per year?

Bill from Mt. Vernon:  A question that has been asked before. The Anti-sexual harassment training had to be done every year?

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Bill, yes---it's an annual requirement and we're currently looking into some trainings similar to the one we offered in the spring.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  Yes, we just did ours. We used the training from the state.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  I'd add to Bobbi's question a discussion about what types of things you do for staff development.  I know several of our libraries do field trips.

Sherry Waldrep - Allerton PL:  We did the same as Bobbi re: sexual harassment training Bill from Mt. Vernon:  We've been using the one from the State Chamber of Commerce. Where can I find the State one?

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Anna - it is a lovely day - for curling up under a quilt and reading!

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Not quite that cool in Carbondale, Jo!

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:

Anna Yackle IHLS:  @Bobbi are you satisfied with that training

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Anyone going to help Bobbi out with her question about staff development days?  How often do you do them, if you do them at all.

Sara Z - Litchfield:  i printed the state one out, and had everybody read it and sign off that they did.    

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  The training gets the point across, but it was very, very dry.

Sara Z - Litchfield:  @Bobbi we do them twice a year

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  Thanks!

Deb Mason Paxton Carnegie:  Do you allow children under 18 to obtain a library card without a parent/guardian having one?

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  Yes, we do require a parent signature, but we don't require the parent to have a card.

Sara Z - Litchfield:  @ Deb... don't we have to with the new ISL guidelines?

Carrie Russell - Maroa Public:  @Deb  Yes, but the parent/guardian must sign along with the child.

Ginger - Athens:  We offer student cards, but require an adult signature.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Bobbi - we do 2-3 evenings a year.  I don't want to have to close for a whole day of training.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  We DO NOT allow the parent to use their child's card.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @Jo - thanks!

Deb Mason Paxton Carnegie:  @Sara..that's what I thought, but had a question about it this morning, wanted to double check.

Sara Z - Litchfield:  @ Deb we were always told under 18 could not sign into a legally binding agreement (ie library cards) but I guess that's moot now

Debbie Greene:  Does anyone know of sources for good, used "western" books?  I have a patron who wants to buy some of these.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Re:  Cards fpr Minors:  remember that the Cards for Kids legislation only waives the non-resident fee.  All service policies that apply to minors apply across the board.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @Debbie - if you're anywhere near Deactur/Forsyth, the Old Book Barn is a great source.

Sara Z - Litchfield:  @Ellen yes but our policy says must be 18 yo to get a card on your own (without parental agreement)... so how does that transfer onto C4K?

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  @ Debbie Greene I have a bag full of paperback westerns that I have been waiting for the right moment to weed....

Loretta Broomfield:  Anyone else multitasking and also listening in on an ILA session?

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Debbie, if your patron is able to do library book sales and antique stores, I bet they could pick up some treasures.

Diana Donahoo_CentraliaRLD:  @Deb We don't require the parent to have a card but they do have to be with the child and sign the application form for the child's card.

Rachel R (Steeleville):  @Loretta, I'm at ILA now too!

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Sara, your policy would still apply to the non-resident---you're just waiving the fee, not changing the policy.  So, those cards for non-resident minors could require a parental signature.

Debbie Greene:  Thank you!  If I am ever close to Decatur, I will look them up!  And, any weeded books would be welcome, thank you!

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Loretta and Rachel and Esther----what have you heard that you've liked. 

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  Debbie, where are you at?  I have a patron who will want to look through them too, but anything else I can send your way in transit.

Rachel R (Steeleville):  I did the mock board meeting earlier today, that was great. They had a lawyer present too to answer questions.

Debbie Greene:  I am at the Wayne City Kissner Public Library.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Rachel----that program will also be part of our Member Day and you know that your trustees are more than happy to attend (no fee!).

Bill from Mt. Vernon:  The one on Director Succession was really interesting. I am already working on a spreadsheet.

Rachel R (Steeleville):  I'm going to bring that up at our Oct board meeting!

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Bill, that's one that I'll want to watch when the recordings are up!  @Rachel---Great!

Rachel R (Steeleville):  I really enjoyed the iREAD summer reading presentation too!

Pam - West Frankfort Public:  Has anyone had trouble submitting a Help Desk ticket in the past few days? I submitted one on Monday and again on Tuesday and never received the automated reply that it was received. When I look at my open tickets it doesn't show.

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  All the sessions have been really good. Enjoyed the one yesterday that Anna participated in.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Esther, I like that as well.  Good to hear all those resilient library workers!

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @Pam - that hasn't happened to me lately, but when it happened in the past, I had to use a different browser.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Pam, you might shoot Dena Porter an e-mail and see if she can help you out or shed any light on what's happenning.

Pam - West Frankfort Public:  Thanks

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  I was a little worried last week when everyone said they had received their email about the state grants.  I had not and my worrywart mind immediately thought we would not get it.  However, about 3:30, I was excited to see that email!

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Loretta Yes. right now. I am watching the Levy program

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Just as an FYI, Christine Westerlund, who is a trustee from the Chatham Library will be receiving the Trustee of the Year award from ILA.  So, stick around for the awards session this afternoon and give her lots of virtual applause! 

Esther Curry--CE Brehm Memorial PLD:  @Anna--that's what I'm watching too.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Loretta I am watching the Levy program right now.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Aside from ILA and successful grant applications, what else is going on this week?

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Loretta, I am watching the Levy program right now.

Rachel R (Steeleville):  I'm watching the Levy program too.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Sorry about that glitch.

Angie -- Trenton Public:  I am LOVING the participation for the Library Crawl!

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  I just did an indepth collection analysis with circ numbers, turnover rate, and the physical footprint each colletion takes up. From that I learned that we need to get rid of a lot of magazines and expand our videogame collection.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Jo- congrats on receiving the grant you applied for. We received a humanities grant but had not heard back about Transforming Library Spaces. from ISL. it 's okay though, I am already exhausted. LOL

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  We got the Humantities grant. We're very excited!

Ginger - Athens:  Interesting, Bobbi! What type of video games are you loaning? Switch?

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Julie and Bobbi----what are your plans for the Humanities grant?

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  PS3, PS4, X-Box 360/1, Wii, WiiU, and Swtich.

Rachel R (Steeleville):  We got the IL Humanities grant and the Road to Recovery ISL grant... so I'm having fun shopping.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  We hit sales as much as possible. Like Target Circle just had a 40% all videogames offer and I bought $200 worth of games for just over $100.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  That's great, Bobbi!

Sara Z - Litchfield:  we didn't get ISL grant but got a local one for a permanent storywalk outside

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @Ellen - we're buying equipment for outdoor programs and program on the go.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Bobbi- yes, I am really happy we received the Humanities grant-- and we have until Aug. 2022 to get it all completed. I just finished up the DNA grant that was awarded last November-- so I am about worn out with grants, etc.  right now

Sherry Waldrep - Allerton PL:  @Bobbi - what restrictions to you have on games?  I've considered purchasing  - not sure which ones to buy,  how to process them, where to store them, etc.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  We only allow 3 per household at one time. We already have a R-rating policy (minors have to have parent permission for R-rated material) and we extended that to videogames.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Sara - Yay!  I want a permanent storywalk outside.  Next time ...

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Ellen- we are doing a permanent Story Book Walk in the local park.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Sara---is someone local putting the storywalk together for you or is it something you will purchase?

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  We process them basically like DVDs, except for Swtich games.

Sherry Waldrep - Allerton PL:  I'm a new director - where do you hear about grants?  do they take a lot of time to write?

Jenna Smithton PLD:  Hi all.  I'm just verifying -- we heard last week about the Bouncing Back grant -- just seeing if others heard yea or nay back from the ISL?

Sara Z - Litchfield:  @ Ellen doing it myself. Buying weatherproof sign cabinets and having someone install them and the concrete, benches, etc

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Angie- Everyone that visits us for the Library Crawl is so happy to be doing this! Smiles all around.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Jenna - is that the same as On the Road to Recovery grant?

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @Sherry - the IHLS grants page is a great place to start:

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Sherry, the advice I always give people is to (at the very least) scan our Newsletter and the newsletter sent by the Illinois State Library.  If you do that, you'll catch grants that are very library specific.

Carrie Russell - Maroa Public:  @sara  Would you be willing to send me the info for your cabinets?  I'd love to install a storywalk on our property!

Rachel-ShermanPLD:  We have a videogame collection too!  When our local Family Video stores were closing I purchased a lot of their old games.  They wouldn't sell me the Switch games.   I even asked for the signage and got it!  Our patrons really love having the option to check out videogames especially since there is no longer a place in town to rent them. 

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  How long it takes to write the grant just depends on the grant. It varies considerably.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Rachel- that is great- :)

Sara Z - Litchfield:  @carrie -- try ULINE and Park Outfitters

Carrie Russell - Maroa Public:  @Sara - thank you!

Jenna Smithton PLD:  @Jo yes

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @Rachel - I hit our family video too. I also go to MegaReplay.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Jenna - that is the one we wrote for and received.  We are using it for new computers

Sherry Waldrep - Allerton PL:  @Bobbi - thank you for that link - wasn't aware of it!

Jenna Smithton PLD:  Woo Hoo Congratulations! We got it, too.  I just figured people would be shouting from the rooftops :)

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  You're welcome!

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Jenna - you didn't hear me?  haha!

Jenna Smithton PLD:  :)

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  After such a tough eighteen months, it's really nice to have happy news!

Jenna Smithton PLD:  @Ellen - AMEN

Carrie Russell - Maroa Public:  @Sara - Sign Outfitters?

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Ellen, yes, we are very grateful.

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  Ellen, do you know if ISL is going to put out a press release about the grants?

Sara Z - Litchfield:  @ Carrie no but I will clarify Loretta Broomfield:  Sorry....trying to read fast and catch up.  We applied for all 3 ARPA grants and were awarded one.  We got letters for the other two stating that the demand was so great and there was not enough funding.  Each library could only receive a max of one of the grants.

Jenna Smithton PLD:  @Carrie - I am interested in this info, too.  Thanks for asking!

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Once we can get our hands on a comprehensive list of grant recipients for both the Humanities grant and the ISL grants, we'll put something in the newsletter to congratulate everyone.   @ Carrie, it's been a few days since I looked.  I think Danielle Beasley, our Communications Coordinator) is on it!

Kami Komm - Germantown:  We got the digital grant, but not road to recovery.   Will start ordering laptops, tablets, and hot spots soon.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Lorretta, thanks for sharing that---I didn't know that was the case.

Sara Z - Litchfield:  @Carrie School Outfitters and Park Warehouse  sorry!!

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Debbie it amazes me that those that love Westerns have a true devotion to them and will go to great lengths to get them.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  What is everyone doing for Family Reading Night?  In person program?  Virtual?

Loretta Broomfield:  We plan to do something passive for FRN.  We just did a big event for Banned Books Week and we need a little break from big stuff!

Debbie Greene:  So true!  We have so many people who like to read westerns, that we just moved them to their own "western" room!     I am on the hunt for some western decor to spruce it up a bit - nothing too expensive!

Rachel R (Steeleville):  I have nothing planned for Family Reading Night yet... I need ideas.

Bill from Mt. Vernon:  Mainly buy westerns in large print

Kami Komm - Germantown:  @ Jo- We are going to try in person.  A pajama party.  Just reading some stories, and setting out left over crafts from the summer program.  They can be grab and go for those who want it that way. 

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Rachel---pre-Covid, lots of libraries partnered with schools in their service areas.  Don't know what's possible currently.

Carol, Ashley Public 3:  Ashley Public Library received a grant, too. Will replace computers that are 11 yrs. old, get security cameras, an air purifier and cleaning service.

Loretta Broomfield:  Awsome for Ashley Public Library!!!

Rachel R (Steeleville):  We do purchase books for the school every year.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  Our schools are starting to let (fully-vaccinated) staff back into their buidlings. We're doing two Halloween programs at the schools and I'm very excited!

Carol, Ashley Public 3:  It is amazing for such a little library -- we are thrilled!!!

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  @Carol - that's fantastic!!!

Rachel R (Steeleville):  We used to have volunteers go to the schools and read to the classes but I don't think we can do that yet.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  Loretta- We applied for two Humanities grant and one ISL grant, all from the ARP-- and were told with the humanities grant letter that we could only receive one-- since the demand was so high. have not heard back about the ISl grant but that is fine. I hope to apply for a grant in a couple of years to remodel the library, saving my energy for that1 I am just glad there were so many opportunities in the past 12 months.

Bobbi Perryman - Vespasian Warner PLD:  This is the first time we've been in the schools since 2020. We used to have staff go every month.

Sherry Waldrep - Allerton PL:  Re: Family Reading Night - possibly in-person - story and game night

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Bobbi  That's amazing----we're just all in their weird time warp!

Sara Z - Litchfield:  our schools are starting to come back to library monthly ... finally!!!

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Sara  Very nice!  Isn't it good to really SEE people??

Carol, Ashley Public 3:  @Bobbi   Thanks!  What a way to learn how to write a grant, huh???

Sara Z - Litchfield:  @Ellen yes it is!

Jenna Smithton PLD:  Last year for FRN we did a facebook contest where we had parents snap pictures of families reading together.  We're planning to do that again this year and possibly extend the event to a weeklong opportunity.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  We will most likely just do a passive program- hand outs, etc for FRN, last year we gave out bags with free children's books we have been saving from five dollar deals and gently used donations.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  I also want to thank IHLS for the workshop on how to write a grant.  It was so helpful and I am sure contributed to our success.  I used a lot of their ideas.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Jenna---that's really fun!  @Jo---glad that helped and hats off to our ISL colleagues for their presentation!

Carrie Russell - Maroa Public:  @Sara - Thank you!

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @JO- I agree, the grant writing session was very helpful

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  I believe that Family Reading Night is (officially) November 18th, correct?  However, our libraries have always been very flexible as to when and how they've celebrated.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  If you haven't registered for Member Day, the early bird deadline is October 31st.  If you need the link to they website, here you go:  It's gonna be great!

Angie -- Trenton Public:  That link is invalid, Ellen  :(

Danielle Beasley - Communications Coordinator:  Hi Angie, try this link:

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  @Angie:  Let's try this again:

Janet McAllister - Rochester:  My youth department is exploding pumpkins for a homeschool program today!

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Janet-- that sounds like a great idea1

Janet McAllister - Rochester:  They are outside - I can hear the squeals of joy!

IHLS Admin:  @Janet---I hope there's video!

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  We made mini pumpkin catapults using craft sticks (used pom poms for the "pumpkins").  It was a bit hit!!  Using that Makers Make it Work series of books

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Janet - that sounds like so much fun!

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Carrie - that sounds fun, too!

Janet McAllister - Rochester:  Some people are attending via zoom so there should be a video

IHLS Admin:  That's really fun!

Rachel R (Steeleville):  @Carrie Ohhh I need to check out those books.

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  We have been doing a story hour that meets after morning PreK dismisses and before lunch and it has been a nice amount of kids and a good time.

Jackie CAMP:  Did everyone have sound for the new leap training Jackie CAMP:  We could not get any sound on it to work

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Carrie- I love hearing all these great ideas

Rachel-ShermanPLD:  Good idea Carrie!

Jackie CAMP:  The newest one that was sent out

IHLS Admin:  @Jackie.  Was that a video posted on our website or a live training?  We can look into that for you.

Angie -- Trenton Public:  I stepped out in faith that I can attend Member Day and registered (I think).  I clicked on register and it said that I created an event.  I'll check later and make sure that I did not create my own Member Day  LOL

IHLS Admin:  At Angie, I don't think you did. You should receive a confirmation e-mai.

Jackie CAMP:  It was the latest one with the newest updates

Jackie CAMP:  Thank you, we tried and it said make sure sound is turned on and we could not get any sound to work

IHLS Admin:  We can check and have SHARE staff get back to you.

Jackie CAMP:  We have been doing story time out reach at our school, local preschool, and Head start, it has been fun

Anna Yackle IHLS:  @Angie you might be lonely.

Angie -- Trenton Public:  @Anna --- there will be LOTS of snacks!

Jackie CAMP:  We are doing a trick or treat at our story book walk our staff is dressing up as book characters and the kids can trick or treat

IHLS Admin:  Nice!  When are your communities observing Halloween and trick-or-treating?

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Angie - I want to come!

Angie -- Trenton Public:  I just checked and I did get the confirmation email.  HOWEVER  ... the email is oddly formatted.  This is what it looks like:

<p>Angie Chute, you have been registered for this event on the Library Directory &amp; Learning Calendar (L2) site:</p> <p><strong>IHLS Member Day 2021: Celebrating Libraries, Building Partnerships</strong></p>

<p>Nov. 18, 2021 8:00AM   to Nov. 18, 2021 4:00PM</p>

<p>You are signed up to attend at: <strong>Virtual Location</strong></p> <p>For event details, see:

Jackie CAMP:  Ours is on Halloween but we are doing it on Oct 23

Kathleen Bennett - Catlin Public:  @Jackie That sounds like great fun!

Carrie Winkelmann - Petersburg PL:  I also did a program for the 3rd graders as part of their "Community Helpers" series.  I knew the other presenters would be bringing give aways so I made "tickets" to the library good for a "Free Guided Tour"  Printed them like business cards with a picture of the library next to the text and our hours and got a great response.

Jackie CAMP:  We even got the local dentist to donate toothpaste so we aren't just handing out candy

Diana Donahoo_CentraliaRLD:  @Angie That's how all the L2 emails look that I get.

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Here is the link to Member day through L2;data=04%7C01%7C%7C4c76e8ec4a634738b17d08d98f493284%7Cad3877b36b3b4c2c878f78e3a8da1075%7C0%7C0%7C637698366828223788%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=22MnTq96W5OqU0ApHBemNVHlXYWeeD7hXfvgNR0CcLw%3D&amp;reserved=0

Angie -- Trenton Public:  @Jo --- My lonely member day is going to be AWESOME.  Snacks, massages, soothing music .....

IHLS Admin:  @Angie---wonder if that has anything to do with your browser?  We're thrilled you'll be participating.  Diana, we'll check that out.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  @Jackie , that sounds great, we are doing extra special Halloween grab bags-- filled with mask, art kits, etc..

Jackie CAMP:  Very nice @Julie

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  :-)

Anna Yackle IHLS:  @ Angie I want to come to yours. Massages and snacks sound great.

Angie -- Trenton Public:  @Diana --- do you use Google Chrome as well?

IHLS Admin:  It's 2:00 already!  How did that happen????Don't forget that next week will be our "Third Thursday" program---hope you can make it!  No Directors' Chat until October 28th.  Have a lovely weekend!

Angie -- Trenton Public:  @Anna --- If I'm doing an event, I'm definitely going to do it my way!  LOL

Anna Yackle IHLS:  Looks like it is time for us to say goodbye until next week.  Have a great weekend.

Julie Jarman (Staunton):  Thanks everyone, It is always great to talk with you all!

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  Thank you.  Have a good two weeks!

Jackie CAMP:  Thanks

Diana Donahoo_CentraliaRLD:  @ Angie yes

Kay Burrous  South Macon:  Thanks!!!