TRANSCRIPT: IHLS Directors' Chat - September 23, 2021


Directors' Chat
Thursday, September 23, 2021


Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  “Autumn leaves don't fall, they fly. They take their time and wander on this their only chance to soar.” Delia Owens "And all the lives we ever lived and all the lives to be are full of trees and changing leaves..." Virginia Woolf "It's the first day of autumn! A time of hot chocolatey mornings, and toasty marshmallow evenings, and, best of all, leaping into leaves!" Winnie the Pooh

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  Welcome all. I will be posting just a few things for your viewing pleasure while we wait for the meeting to start.

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  IHLS Members Matter Think Forward, Not Straight: Understanding the LGBTQ+ Spectrum Presented by Jayne Walters, MLIS Thursday, Oct. 21, 10 a.m. to noon Join your IHLS friends and colleagues from around central and southern Illinois for a presentation by Jayne Walters on understanding the LGBTQ+ spectrum followed by updates from the Illinois State Library; the administrative, delivery, and membership staff of IHLS; and the SHARE consortium.

Confused by the rapidly changing and expanding language? In this session, we’ll discuss the many shades of the LGBTQ+ rainbow and how versatile and fluid it can be. You’ll learn ways to navigate conversations while avoiding pitfalls and how to be a better ally. You’ll also learn why it’s so important.  Register in L2

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  Updates to the Illinois State Library Public Library Non-Resident Service Administrative Rules Webpage Updates have been made to the Illinois State Library's webpage regarding non-resident service administrative rules and a FAQ section on this topic is included within the page as well. Be sure to check out the updated webpage for the most accurate and up-to-date information.

Shelley (Hilslbro Public Library):  Anna can you send the link for that to skim

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  Overfilling and Weight of ILL Tubs IHLS Delivery drivers and sorters have recently reported several instances of libraries overfilling tubs or tubs being too heavy. The weight limit for tubs is 40 lbs. Large/heavy items may fit in the tub(s), but please distribute the heavier items to more than one tub.

Overfilling tubs can result in damage to materials. Additionally, it creates a hazard for delivery drivers and sorters when lifting and transporting the tubs.

If you need additional tubs, please be sure to reach out to your delivery hub manager. Thank you for your cooperation.

Carbondale and Edwardsville Hubs

Linda Petty, Area Manager | 618.474.9828

Champaign Hub

Linda Kates, Operations Manager | 217.318.5352

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  @Shelley Sure

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  Jill Pifer will be talking about the following new program and how you can get involved. Illinois Libraries Present Group Launching Membership for 2022 Illinois Libraries Present (ILP, formerly Joint Programming Group) is excited to announce they will soon be launching membership for 2022. They hope you and your library will be interested to join in this new model of resource sharing through collaborative events created with an equity lens.

Big Announcements:

Website launch

Find the latest about ILP here, including answers to Frequently Asked Questions

Committee applications are now open

ILP is seeking library staff to join three new committees: Marketing, Event Production, and Data Numbers. Applications are due by Oct. 10. View committee descriptions and apply now.

Join ILP for a live Info Session

Join ILP for one of two Zoom Info Sessions and bring your questions. Registration is encouraged even if you are unable to attend live, so you will automatically receive the recording. Register below:

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Good afternoon, everyone!

Danielle Beasley - Communications Coordinator:  We include the type of information Anna shared and more in our biweekly newsletter! Be sure to subscribe to receive IHLS related news and updates, as well as CE opportunities, vendor discount info, grant deadlines, and other library news:

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  @Shelley her is the link to the FAQ and her is the link to the rest of the site

Tammy Krouse (Edwards County School District):  Any hints as to when we will know about the On the Road to Recovery Grants?  (I have had a WILD variety of /nightmares/dreams regarding various forms of rejection/acceptance)  :)

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  @ Tammy: I was thinking about this today too

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Tammy, the last we heard from Greg McCormack, they were hoping to get announcements made in time for grant activity to begin on October 1st.  So I would say, any day now!

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  @Tammy, I am so sorry that this is causing you so much anxiety.

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  Jill would you like to share about Illinois Presents and what the group is about and hopes to accomplish?

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  I wanted to share info on Illinois Libraries Present. It is a new state wide initiative that I am helping with

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  The Illinois Libraries Present provides high-quality online events at equitable prices for participating member libraries of all sizes and budgets. Our goal is to reduce costs and maximize reach by taking advantage of both virtual event platforms and the collective buying power of member libraries in the State of Illinois.

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  There website is

Carol, Ashley Public:  @Anna  Appreciate knowing the maximum weight of the delivery totes.

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  The pilot project involves participation in monthly shared programs with dozens of other libraries across the state (at least six high-profile events will be offered in the pilot period of January - June 2022; participate in some or all)

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  Each library’s membership fee is based on their operating budget with libraries under $249,000 paying only $40 to participate in the pilot project

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  Sign up link:

Monday, September 27, 11 a.m. to noon

Friday, October 1, 2-3 pm

SARA ZUMWALT:  @ Jill I would be interested

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  SOrry that last link is to signup for the info sessions

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  @Jill, if participation is high is it true that the smallest libraries could access these 6 online programs for their members for as low as $40?

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  Yes that is true,

Anna Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  It seems that puts it in everyone's reach.  If you don't have $40 dollars getting a sponsor or four seems pretty doable.

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  These are all virtual programs. You could choose to hold the watching event at your library or patrons can sign up individually and are emailed a link to access the presentation from home

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  It also includes all the marketing and promotion fliers you would need

Shelley (Hilslbro Public Library):  @Jill.  Is the program professional development events or more like sharing events like an author or something like that?

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  From what I understand you could either make this a watch party in the library or let each patron to watch remotely

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  @ shelly, the latter.  this is author events or other presenters of high interest

Shelley (Hilslbro Public Library):  @Anna. I get it now when you say "watch party" in the library. But the remote option is nice too.

Shelley (Hilslbro Public Library):  thanks for clarification

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  @Jill, I really like this idea and know is a good chance for people to get in at the ground floor and join a committee to help shape its future.

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  The 6 programs are broken out over various price points and the desire is to bring in a couple of names that would be well out of most of our price ranges ($20,000 fees) and balance it with other presenters that may only charge $1500. For you the scale of the pricing is irrelevant as you may pay as little as $40

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  Do people have to register in advance to attend one of the information sessions Jill?

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  We are also looking for volunteers for all of the committees. Currently, I am the only IHLS person serving on any committee. They need help with Marketing, Programs, Events PRoduction and data analysis (post production gathering stats and comments)

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  Yes they do need to register to attend the info sessions: Sign up link:

Monday, September 27, 11 a.m. to noon

Friday, October 1, 2-3 pm

Holly- Brighton:  is there another way to access I am receiving a 404 error pop up for both links

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  The info sessions sign up shoots you into an Arlighton Heiights Library site as we are using it for the info sign-ups so don't be confused. All volunteers just trying to make it work while we get it off the ground

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  this is not on L2 right? We can only register through this address

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  Correct, not all L2.  I will send out another ihlsdirectors email with the info later today.

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  It is nice of AHML to do that for the group.

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  @ Holly when I clicked on that last link it worked for me.  Maybe try again

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  THis is the site for the ILP homepage:

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  It is on L2 and if you hit the register button on the right, it takes you directly to the Arlington Heights page.  Here's that link:

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  Thanks Ellen, I didn't see it when I looked earlier.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Here's the link for the Arlington Heights page:

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  I just registered for the Monday session.  Thank you, Jill.

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  Thanks, Ellen. SOmeone on the steering committee must have done that. In the 3 meetings I have been too we have done 2 grants, made a website and all of its content, put together an accounting proposal and IGA, etc so everyone is moving fast

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  Thanks for registering Jo

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  I think it is great that we all have a chance to offer our members the same programs some of the bigget and wealthiest libraries in the state are offering their patrons.

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  There isn't anything like it so in some respects I am sure it seems impossible that it will ever work but I can tell you we are all dedicated to making it work. The 6 programs should be announced in October

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  The deadline to register for the pilot will be Dec 31 but we will still let you in through Jan 31, 2022

Holly- Brighton:  Thanks Ellen I was able to access that one ;)  The other still is not working for me

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  I am glad you got in Holly. 

Ginger - Athens:  I remember hearing that the trustee training session site was hacked and nonfunctional. Does anyone know if that has changed? I can't find the link to it.

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  Please let other libraries you know about the pilot program.  For my library budget it will cost $75 to become a member. It a small price to pay to give something like this a try and see how it works for my patrons

Sharla ~  Doyle Public Library:  @ Anna, what kind of programs are these?

Holly- Brighton:  This sounds right up my budget alley! What is high profile activity though?

Rachel-ShermanPLD:  Ginger it's still down according to IL Attorny General page

Shelley (Hilslbro Public Library):  Oh! I forgot to ask are these children or adult programs or a bit of both!

Shelley (Hilslbro Public Library):  It sounds like a great deal and opportunity. I'm considering joining too.

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:   @JIll would you like to address Sharla's question?

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  Shelly, for the pilot project they are adult but I could see that expanding

Shelley (Hilslbro Public Library):  Actually thats perfect for me. I need more adult programs. Children would be great too though.

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  The idea is to wrap up the pilot in June, most likely take some time to get feedback, tweak it and then come back in early Fall with this next round of programs

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  @Sharla, I suggest the best way to find out is to register for a session. I think it will be worth your time. @Jill will the information sessions be recorded so people can watch them at their convenience?

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  SHarla: the focus for the pilot is Equity diversity and inclusion. We have talked about speakers like Abraham Kendi but also lesser known people like Heather Anderson who is a hiker with the fastest known time on teh Appalachian trail for a women. Not everything will have a social justice bent

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  I believe we are recording both but defintely one

SARA ZUMWALT:  are most of you back to in-person programming yet?

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  No in person programming at Fairview Heights but then again I am 10 minutes from St Louis

Bill from the Brehm Library:  Trying a few small programs where spacing can be done.

Shelley (Hilslbro Public Library):  OOOOOOOoooooo. The hiker sounds cool. We don't really have many mountains here in Illinois. :P

Shelley (Hilslbro Public Library):  we are in-person programming. Have been since February maybe. March for sure.   My board is requiring masks for programming though. Makes it hard for us to hear each other but it is what it is.

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  @Shelley, but the further south you go the hillier it gets and This is really where the Ozark Mountain range starts.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Sara - we are doing story time outside for 3 more weeks.  We have an indoor adult program scheduled for the end of October (Hiding in Plain Sight:  Great Horned Owls of Forest Park), but it will be held in a local bank's community room since we don't have one.

Angie -- Trenton Public:  The only in person programming that we are doing are our book clubs.

Shelley (Hilslbro Public Library):  @Anna. True. Good poitn

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  On another topic, but program related. I just wanted to make sure that you all saw I posted the link for the recording of our last Members Matter presentation on Broadband with the Director or the Illinois Department of Commerce and Economic Opportunity's Office of Broadband. Here is the link to the recording:

SARA ZUMWALT:  we are starting lego club again next week but its in our big community room so plenty of room. just wondered where everybody else was

Shelley (Hilslbro Public Library):  that's a great idea sara. you can space the kids out. 

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  @Shelley, I like Illinois and want to give it all of the credit it is do. We aren't just Chicago and flat fields as you all know.

Rachel-ShermanPLD:  We have outdoor storytime and will be having a book sale in the greenhouse down the street next weekend.  Our book club and quilters group are meeting inside.  We just hosted a passport program inside over the weekend (socially distanced).  An outdoor vaccine clinic is scheduled in October.

Shelley (Hilslbro Public Library):  it's true. Going into Tennessee it gets pretty. Also my library is in  HILLSboro. :P

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  Sorry that "do" should have been "due."

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  @Rachel, I like the variety and flexibility of you venues.

Sharla ~  Doyle Public Library:  Thank you

Sharla ~  Doyle Public Library:  Anna and Jill for filling me in.

Rachel-ShermanPLD:  Thanks Anna.  We are partnerning with our village to use the outdoor amphitheater to bring Mike Anderson over to do "Spooky Stories" in October as well.

SARA ZUMWALT:  how "bad" is it not to offer story hour? I don't like the commitment of weekly sessions, I don't think people will remember once a month... I'd rather do an event every month than weekly story hour. Thoughts?

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  Sara,

Sharla ~  Doyle Public Library:  We are doing a few small programs with adequate spacing. Trees of Raymond Part 2 this Saturday!

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  @Rachel that sounds like so much fun for the whole family.

Ginger - Athens:  @Rachel, email me promo for Mike Anderson. I'll advertise here for ya.

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  @Sharla can you tell us more about the Trees program?\

Sharla ~  Doyle Public Library:  Rachel, that sounds really fun! I like "outside the library" library programs.

Rachel-ShermanPLD:  Thanks Ginger!

Twilla Coon-Mount Carmel Public Library:  We are not able to do a lot with patrons right now covid is really bad here 88 in one week

Kathleen Bennett - Catlin Public:  We are participating in the Library Crawl that startes on the 27th.  I am thankful for all of the hard work that went into organizing the information.  A big thanks goes to Mary Brewster at Betholto for putting everything together.

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:    Sara, we do ours as a series of 8 weeks so mayve it runs mid September in early November. WE have a Fall and a Spring session. It is every week during the session but I also like your idea of maybe doing a couple a month

Pam - West Frankfort Public:  Sara - We now do  weekly story time but in the past we have done 1st and 3rd Thursdays and it was well attended.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Sara, pre-covid we did both a monthly story time (for school age children) and a weekly story time (for toddlers/preschool age children).  Both had their faithful attendees.

Ginger - Athens:  @Sara, could you advertise it as a playdate OR story hour? some weeks have stories. Some weeks have self-paced activities?

Rachel-ShermanPLD:  Sara now is a great time to try new things!

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Also, our 2021 Member Day was officially launched through an announcement in the Member Connection that was sent out yesterday.    Here's the link to the website:  It's going to be fun!

SARA ZUMWALT:  I like spending the $$ on big family events instead of weekly story hour. We've had a ton of success with Wreck the Halls, Harry Potter Day, etc

Ginger - Athens:  What is Wreck the Halls?

SARA ZUMWALT:  @ Rachel... aint it just?

SARA ZUMWALT:  @ ginger it was a dinosaur Christmas

Ginger - Athens:  Oh that's fun.

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  @Sara, I always love multi-generational programming. Those sound like fun programs where people can really get involved.

SARA ZUMWALT:  it was! My son donned an inflatable T Rex costume, we velcro'd a giant foam santa hat   he was Santa Rex!! lol

Kathleen Bennett - Catlin Public:  We are also finishing up a Wednesday morning Coffee Talk group next week.  We are meeting outdoors so the weather will not be cooperative for much longer.  My staff member scheduled area speakers to talk about community events.  It has been well attended. 

Ginger - Athens:  We've had a large, real tree promised to us and we are looking to do some programming around it. Local choir singing carols, local Santa impersonator, etc.

Ginger - Athens:  We'll put the tree out front of the building and have a "lighting"

SARA ZUMWALT:  i have a bunch of event stuff if anybody is interested. I don't throw anything away lol

Sharla ~  Doyle Public Library:  Trees of Raymond, Part 1 was last Saturday and a couple with a fantastic property brought in a bag of branches with leaves marked so we used them for display and examples of different leaves, watched a video (short) on "Why leaves change color" and then the children did leaf rubbings. I then broke up all that thinking and intense crayon work with an exercise video about "animal moves"....the children liked it very much. This Saturday we will be doing more tree identification-outside-with a walk around the library identifying those we know-then the children will bring in leaves from their own yards and we'll laminate them and attach them to a 'tree of Raymond' branch in the library

SARA ZUMWALT:  lol @ intense crayon work

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  @Sharla, I love the way you are engaging all of the senses and learning styles. Plus it sounds like so much fun. I would love to see the animal moves.

Sharla ~  Doyle Public Library:  Sara-like at our County celebration! LOL I really love it when they get intense with the coloring!

Shelley (Hilslbro Public Library):  Had a question. not related to programming. Anyone have advice on how to encourage board members to step into officer roles so it's not the same people doing all the work over and over? (Would help balance personalities and prevent abuse of power as well).

SARA ZUMWALT:  @Sharla yup!

Sharla ~  Doyle Public Library:  Raymond had their 150th anniversary and we had an event booth. My two clerks were helping the kids decorate some very outrageous crowns as I was out in the crowds hawking "would you like a free library lanyard"... it was a fun event too!

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  I don't mean to sound "politically correct"  but do any of you do holiday programs for people of other faiths? I have Muslim friends and friends and family who are Jewish and I know sometimes they feel left out and overwhelmed. So I guess I am asking for a friend9s).

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  @Sharla, that sounds like so much fun.

SARA ZUMWALT:  @Anna we do a display of holiday books from other faiths  not a whole lot of that in Litchfield, but we try to accommodate

Janet McAllister - Rochester:  Rochester just received a Communities for Immunity Grant and will have IL Dept of Public Health vaccine clinic at our Sunday Farmers Market

SARA ZUMWALT:  @ Janet congrats

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  That's great, Janet! I was really worried that no one would come to our vaccine clinic. We held it Sept 15 from 2-4:00pm and had 9 people get vaccinated. We were happy some people showed up!

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  @Sara on behalf of the people I know thanks, I know it is pretty homogenous in most of our communities but I know most of us want everyone to feel welcome and comfortable. @Janet, congratulationson the grant and what a great community outreach event.

Bill from the Brehm Library:  We only had six at our vaccination clinic

Janet McAllister - Rochester:  I actually had a friend who's family had to take her off the vent today as her organs had all started to I'm happy to promote the vaccine.

Rachel-ShermanPLD:  @Michelle  Did you have people register beforehand?  I just pushed our date back for the vaccine clinic. 

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Yes, between Janet and Bill that's fifteen more people vaccinated!

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Rachel, no, ours was walk in. I advertised on Nextdoor and Facebook and put fliers up all around town.

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Rachel, we did our clinic with Illinois Emergency Management Agency though.

Jill Pifer- Fairview Hgts:  Janet, I am very sorry to hear about your friend.

Janet McAllister - Rochester:  @Michelle 9 is a great number

Rachel-ShermanPLD:  That's who we are doing it through...I think.  Several different state agencies seem to be involved. 

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  It seems that we are in week 9999and a half of Covid and yet you guys constantly amaze me with your creativity and resilience

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Janet, for this little town it really was.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Shelley - our board president decided that the way to get members more involved was to encourage (require?) committees to meet either monthly or bimonthly  and give a report at each board meeting.  Suddenly, they are a lot more active.

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Rachel, they brought all 3 shots. So clarify that with them because originally they told me it would be a Pfizer clinic and that was what we advertised.

SARA ZUMWALT:  IEMA contacted me but has not followed up.

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  @Jo I may ask your board president to share that idea with someother trustees.

Janet McAllister - Rochester:  My friend did not believe in the vaccine - 59 is way to young to pass

Rachel-ShermanPLD:  Michelle: I had that conversation today actually!  I know some people are wanting the Moderna booster

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  So, I was wrong!  It was between Bill and Michelle that 15 more people were vaccinated.  Hats off to Barclay PLD, C.E. Brehm and all of you!

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Janet, that is really sad!

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Anna, I can give you contact info if you need it.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  @Janet, I am so sorry for the loss of your friend.

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  @Ellen, we sure are trying!

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  @Jo please do.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Speaking of Trustees---they're a great line-up on Member Day for Trustees and they are MORE than welcome to participate!

Kathleen Bennett - Catlin Public:  @Janet, I am so sorry about your friend. 

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  And I have good news before we end...Barclay just got a 10k grant for a new circulation desk

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  Congrats Michelle.

Ellen Popit/IHLS:  Great and happy news!

Janet McAllister - Rochester:  That's great!

Kathleen Bennett - Catlin Public:  @Michelle Congrats!  What grant did you apply for?  Grant awards winners are my heroes:)

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  Thanks! We can finally rearrange in here!

Michelle Sawicki Barclay PLD:  It was a local church.

Jo Keillor - Greenville Public Library:  Yay, Michelle!

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  Well it is time once again to wrap this up.  Have a great week and see you next Thursday afternoon. Enjoy this gorgeous weather.

Kathleen Bennett - Catlin Public:  WOW!  That's awesome!  Not even through a grant; I just assumed:/

Ellen Popit/IHLS:   This was a great chat!   Looking forward to doing it again next Thursday!

Debbie Greene:  Cards for Kids question:  I recently had a lady come in who said they live about five miles from our village and asked about a library card for her daughter.  Normally I think it would be a non-resident library card, but is this the kind of person who is eligible for the Cards for Kids card?  She has a card for the Mt. Vernon library but wants her daughter's card to be separate from her.   She attends school here.

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  Debbie where does the daughter live. She can always use her Brehm card at your library.

Debbie Greene:  I told her that and she wants it separate.

Debbie Greene:  Her daughter lives with her

Anna Yackle - IHLS Admin:  Then she  is only entitled to the Brehm card. The program is only for people in unserved areas below a certain economic level. This person is qualified for a Brehm card and can easily attain one. So they do not qualify for a cards for kids card.

Debbie Greene:  OKay.  Thank you for the clarification.